Putin signs law banning advertisements for abortion in Russia

[specsaregood]

Not sure about long-term residency, but I know that if you want to go to Russia as a tourist you need a letter of invitation from someone inside Russia. :

I just imagined a future campaign where they have snowden as the face of a campaign to get tech workers to immigrate there.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I'm not necessarily on board, but I'm not Russian and I don't know what goes on in Russia that would make lawmakers pass this bill.

Its not our business beyond simply commenting, but I'd never support a law like that in the US.

And there are people in the US who would be on board with that. Our little culture friend (not) from TOL actually called that which Russia banned "raping the minds of children"

Some poster on another forum said the he/she/it fantasizes about punishing the African countries where homosexuality is illegal.

Neocon hacks

Why not give peace a chance?

It's not about the governments of those countries, its about the athletes and the people in the countries watching them.

I was mostly kidding anyways. That said, I don't really know what "disrupting the Olympics" means. What were they going to do?

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Honestly, gays and lesbians and the rest should just stop practicing their behavior, especially in countries where its frowned upon. But that would contradict the idea that sexual behavior is the same as skin color. So international lgbtq(insert other letters) groups spend loads of time and money promoting homosexual behavior in countries with a traditional view of sexual relations.

Honestly people should stop caring about what people do in their bedrooms, especially in a country where "freedom" is supposedly its trademark.

 

[Origanalist]

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Honestly, gays and lesbians and the rest should just stop practicing their behavior, especially in countries where its frowned upon. But that would contradict the idea that sexual behavior is the same as skin color. So international lgbtq(insert other letters) groups spend loads of time and money promoting homosexual behavior in countries with a collectivist view of sexual relations.

Fixed.

 

[Origanalist]

Fixed.

Feel better?

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Feel better?

I feel pretty content. It was a clever edit if I do say so myself.

 

[alucard13mm]

Putin is like any other politician.. although

In Putin's mind..
Putin 1st
Corporations 2nd
Russians 3rd
Immigrants/Minorities/Others 4th

While in US..
Corporations 1st
Obama 2nd
Immigrants/Minorities/other countries 3rd
US citizens 4th

Of course, I am generalizing and leaving out a lot of other things

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The Russian Orthodox patriarchate gave Putin an award a while back.

http://www.euronews.com/2013/11/05/russian-orthodox-church-gives-award-to-putin-for-making-country-powerful-and-/

 

[Neil Desmond]

I think right here in Virginia, where I live, there are laws that make it illegal for abortion clinics to advertise. I don't get how Virginia's getting away with that, because it's freedom of speech & freedom of the press. I suppose Russia doesn't have freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Oh wait, supposedly we have freedom of speech & press, but Virginia can make it illegal to advertise, so I suppose Russia also has freedom of speech & press in the same way.

Same with any other good or service that's legal, such as tobacco and alcohol. We have laws here in the US that restrict or prohibit advertising of those kinds of things too. The US Constitution doesn't state that we have freedom of speech and press, unless we're a legal business offering a legal good or service, at least as far as I'm aware.

It doesn't matter if it's Russia, the US, or any other country, and it doesn't make any difference what the good or service is that's legally being offered. Making it illegal to advertise such a thing is absurd. I'm not a fan of making the offering of any good or service illegal, but if it's at least legal, then it makes sense to let them advertise.

Even if it's something that's not legal, it should still not matter if they advertise. Say someone runs a business where they offer to vandalize property of people you don't like (e.g., slashing the tires on their car); it shouldn't be the advertising of such services that ought to be seen as the problem, it ought to be the crime itself. Sure, such a person would be an idiot for openly drawing attention to themselves that way, but that's beside the point.

 

[fr33]

Honestly, gays and lesbians and the rest should just stop practicing their behavior, especially in countries where its frowned upon.

Then "honestly", you too should stop practicing your behavior. Supporting liberty is frowned upon in this country. Stop talking about it and promoting it. Socialism is popular and your views should be kept to yourself.

 

[TER]

Do you think Russia is going a bit overboard with this?

Russian Government Confirms That Gay Activists Will Be Arrested at 2014 Olympics
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...y-Activists-Will-Be-Arrested-at-2014-Olympics

Russian anti-gay bill passes, protesters detained
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-anti-gay-bill-passes-protesters-detained/

Russian Newspaper Accused of Violating 'Gay Propaganda' Law
http://www.advocate.com/news/world-...ewspaper-accused-violating-gay-propaganda-law

Russia is not a libertarian society. I don't think it makes any claim to be so.

The leaders of the nation have made a law which it believes is for the benefit of the society in general. Will everyone agree with it? Of course not! And neither does is it expect that everyone will accept it. But the law being law doesn't mean everyone will agree with it. And if someone doesn't like this law, then they shouldn't visit. And if that person lives there, then they should either deal with it or leave.

Russia does not pretend to be a nation based on human-derived libertarian values, but a nation based on Christian values. It is refreshing to see a country actually protect certain Christian traditions and morals. I think it is also explains why Russia is growing in influence, because people are sick of the relativism and materialism that has thoroughly corrupted the western world. Many are struggling to find answers. The reason we as a nation have become less and have been humbled is because as a nation we have neglected the preeminence of God and have divorced ourselves (in our legislatures) from the commandments of God. As a nation, we have allowed the vile and perverse to be put on display as pop idols, glorified in their brashness and vulgarity and sinful innuendo. This is the fruit of lawlessness and the worship of idols over the God.

 

[eduardo89]

Russia does not pretend to be a nation based on human-derived libertarian values, but a nation based on Christian values. It is refreshing to see a country actually protect certain Christian traditions and morals. I think it is also explains why Russia is growing in influence, because people are sick of the relativism and materialism that has thoroughly corrupted the western world. Many are struggling to find answers. The reason we as a nation have become less and have been humbled is because as a nation we have neglected the preeminence of God and have divorced ourselves (in our legislatures) from the commandments of God. As a nation, we have allowed the vile and perverse to be put on display as pop idols, glorified in their brashness and vulgarity and sinful innuendo. This is the fruit of lawlessness and the worship of idols over the God.

+rep

I think what you said echoes what I have in my signature.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Russia is not a libertarian society. I don't think it makes any claim to be so.

The leaders of the nation have made a law which it believes is for the benefit of the society in general. Will everyone agree with it? Of course not! And neither does is it expect that everyone will accept it. But the law being law doesn't mean everyone will agree with it. And if someone doesn't like this law, then they shouldn't visit. And if that person lives there, then they should either deal with it or leave.

Russia does not pretend to be a nation based on human-derived libertarian values, but a nation based on Christian values. It is refreshing to see a country actually protect certain Christian traditions and morals. I think it is also explains why Russia is growing in influence, because people are sick of the relativism and materialism that has thoroughly corrupted the western world. Many are struggling to find answers. The reason we as a nation have become less and have been humbled is because as a nation we have neglected the preeminence of God and have divorced ourselves (in our legislatures) from the commandments of God. As a nation, we have allowed the vile and perverse to be put on display as pop idols, glorified in their brashness and vulgarity and sinful innuendo. This is the fruit of lawlessness and the worship of idols over the God.

(modern) Russian culture strikes me as more secular than Christian, sadly. (Christianity seems to be more popular among youth now, though ) Also, the US is so divided along regional lines WRT value, ethical, and moral systems that making a statement about the whole society usually isn't accurate.(reasoning from parts to whole rarely works out) Many of the things that are "normal" in New York and California are abhorrent to me, for example.

 

[TER]

(modern) Russian culture strikes me as more secular than Christian. Also, the US is so divided along regional lines WRT value, ethical, and moral systems that making a statement about the whole society usually isn't accurate. Many of the things that are "normal" in New York and California are abhorrent to me, for example.

HB, when you say modern Russia, do you mean like since the fall of the Soviet State? I think the nation has changed much, though I agree it is more secular than Christian.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

HB, when you say modern Russia, do you mean like since the fall of the Soviet State? I think the nation has changed much, though I agree it is more secular than Christian.

Yes, that is what I mean. Sorry for the confusion. :/

 

[TER]

I just noticed your edit. From my understanding, the life of a nation, it's growth and nourishment, is when as a nation it fears God. When in a loud voice a nation glorifies Him and obeys Him. This not only works in the scale as big as nations, but in the very household, indeed, the very single person.

Russia is becoming illuminated by the spread of the Gospel there while we here in the States are dimming. But we will rise too when the seeking of God for answers becomes once again the shared and overwhelming consciousness of the nation.

 

[jtstellar]

keep them on the ground and in the open so you know which neighborhoods to avoid when moving imo. i mean would you want to live next to a woman psychotic enough to kill her own child? rights or not. imagine having a garbage disposal argument with a neighbor that just chopped off her son/daughter limp in the surgery room

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

I was mostly kidding anyways. That said, I don't really know what "disrupting the Olympics" means. What were they going to do?

They don't say, because if they do they will be arrested once they get there. But they have things planned.

 

[asurfaholic]

I support the rights of people to be who they are, but that doesn't mean you have to support abortion.

I generally don't like either Putin or Obama, but at least Putin seems to remotely care about the general population