Burning Down a Stacked Deck
This thread is for anyone to post PROOF that a god exists.
Look the word proof up before making a fool of yourself.
Thank you.
And remember the bible doesn't hold up as proof in a court of law even though stupid people have you place your hand on a work of fiction to swear the truth. Any posts using the bible as PROOF are off topic as it is a work of fiction, not fact.
SO fire away, post the proof of god here and win the admiration of your friends.
You are not an objectivist. To say that one cannot use the Bible to prove God's existence is one of the most dishonest and ignorant proposals in today's postmodern era. It's like asking someone to prove cells exist but forbidding them to use a microscope to see them (because they have a personal problem with microscopes). Yet, that is exactly what you're doing when excluding the Bible as proof for God's existence.
You don't like the Bible, and
you believe it's a work of fiction, so therefore, it can't be used as proof for God's existence. That is not in any way a philosophically cogent argument.
As someone who claims to be an advocate of logic and reason, you have failed to see the logical fallacy of your challenge. In effect, you have "poisoned the well" on this account:
- Unfavorable information (be it true or false) about Person or Thing A is presented.
- Therefore, any claims Person or Thing A makes will be false.
Your argument goes like this:
- The Bible is a work of fiction, not fact, used by stupid people.
- Therefore, the Bible cannot prove God's existence because its claims about God are not real.
For starters, you have failed to show objectively how the Bible is a work of fiction. You have simply taken that claim for granted as an unargued assumption in your challenge. Also, you have completely dismissed any evidences in prophecy, history, archeology, natural sciences, textual criticism, civics and law, and other disciplines which have confirmed that what the Bible claims to be true about God is indeed true. Once again, you are not being objective.
There have been many proofs for God's existence provided to you, Objectivist. The problem is you aren't persuaded of those proofs, but that does not mean the proofs fall just because you haven't assented to what they show to be true about God. You're making a categorical mistake between
proof and
persuasion. A person can be given hundreds of proofs for something, and he can still reject them all, based on his guiding presuppositions as to what the nature of proof should be to convince him. You need to understand that.
From a transcendental perspective, it is not your job as an "atheist" to show that the proofs for God fail. Even if you could, that doesn't prove that "atheism" is correct. Your belief in the nonexistence of God has to be proven true, as well. If you stick to purely scientific or empirical methods, those will not prove God's nonexistence, and thus, it does not validate your assertion that there is no God. So then how do you prove your belief that there is no God? What evidence backs up that belief?
somebody sounds bitter at God. 
The 3rd part is flagged for some obscure reason, but you can find it in the right side of the other vids.
