Project NHRECOUNT - Bump for Liberty

IMHO, one consolidated thread (perhaps stickied at this point) on the recount project is better, so we don't have to keep reinventing the wheel. Attorneys are always good to have in recounts, particularly this one.
 
Update/Recap from Initial Thread Post

Publius Freeman said:
Here's what I suggest we do at this point, in order of priority:

1. Stop letting this issue divide us. That's what the enemy wants. This is a grassroots effort up to us and the people of NH. No threats to the RP campaign.

2. Chipin to fund ~$65K recount now - http://www.grannywarriors.com
Counter totalizer problem needs to be reset ASAP.

3. Work with Obama supporters to fund their half (and see who can get there first)

4. Continue sending email to NH DOJ and SOS to hold off certification of election. Add alleged fraud videos if necessary, and collect more news screen shots, etc.

5. Identify pro bono attorneys from RP Revolution that will assist in the effort.

6. Focus on handcounting ballots in machine municipalities first, then the others.

(7) Once funded, RP or Obama needs to request NH recount, by law. I actually think this act would do nothing but add campaign credo to whoever is bold enough to step forward, if it's done in the right way (that is making sure that state/federal elections for public office in U.S. are fair and transparent, not in a selfish, sour grapes sense. This is really the essence of the campaign, afterall, because all is lost without fair elections). Hunter and Kucinich could also boost their candidacy in this manner...
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Where we are at now, in relation to initial thread post, and open actions IMHO:

1. Check.

2. Still needing grassroots Patriot donations http://www.grannywarriors.com to fund Republican recount efforts.

3. Dennis Kucinich (and Obama supporters?) covering Democrat recount.

4. Continuing evidence collection and NH SOS & DOJ correspondence until election legally certified.

5. Still need to identify RP Revolution pro bono legal team (if not already assembled).

6. Rely on expert input from Bev Harris, et. al. http://www.blackboxvoting.com to help guide recount strategy for maximum effectiveness.

7. Mr. Howard flying to officially file with NH SOS friday requesting Republican recount. Mr. Kucinich already filed for Democrat recount. Blow it out in the digital presses... there is still great hope in America for Freedom, Prosperity and Peace!

Additionally, and most importantly in preparation for filing and after:

8. NH meetups and all other concerned NH voters needed to support accurate recount/investigation/certification. Coordinate thru NH SOS.

+ whatever else that's missing.

May the best man (or woman) win. Most importantly, America wins when its citizen's votes and elections are held accountable.

For all upcoming elections, these actions and websites remain very important for Liberty, IMHO:

1. http://www.watchthevote2008.org for RP pollwatchers with tally sheets (exit polls) and Voter Verification Affadavits for each voter (doesn't matter who they voted for, give them out to everyone). Real-time reporting back from polls.

2. http://www.blackboxvoting.org

https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=109

+ other sites/actions I have left out for voting and e-voting reform.

3. Ongoing NCEL and other lawsuits DEMANDING verifiable paper balloting.

+ whatever else that's missing.

As President Paul reminds us, freedom only comes with personal responsibility. Nobody else is going to make it happen for us. It's never easy. Tyranny is not an option. Evil can be overcome with good...long live the U.S. Constitution!

This is truly an amazing grassroots movement so far...and it's only just begun.
We must never give up the good fight.

Faithfully yours,
Publius Freeman

Ron Paul, and the American people, will win in 2008.
(And if Straw Polls are ANY indication, we already won NH with 65% of the vote)...
 
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"As President Paul reminds us, freedom only comes with personal responsibility. Nobody else is going to make it happen for us. It's never easy. Tyranny is not an option. Evil can be overcome by good..."


Ah, yes, "President Paul," that has such a nice ring to it.

Let's start calling him President Paul. :D
 
Any confirmation yet on Mr. Howard NH SOS recount filing?

(Risk averse / negative nancy psyops last minute efforts trying to prevent this from happening, not suprisingly... )
 
(I really don't care WHO files for recount on the Republican side in this case, as long as SOMEONE files. Anybody that is bold enough to do so I consider a Patriot, and is worthy of our grassroots support, just based on the principle of the matter at stake...)
 
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Constitutionalism vs. Monarchism

One glaring example of how active the fifth column in America is today is to hear them try and brainwash US with the mantra that our votes don't matter anyway (elections are so corrupt, &c.), so just put up and shut up because there's nothing we can do about anything anyway (monarchist mentality).

They go on to attempt to stigmatize and marginalize anyone that would question the sanctity of our open electoral process, or our own ability to fix it if it's broken. The issue of election accountabilty and proper representation has been going on since the American Revolution for Independence and the founding of our great nation in 1776. It is not a new phenomenon.

These infiltrates are once again being exposed at all levels for who they are and what they are trying to do, and this will continue to be the case as long as our Constitutional Republic exists, so help us God. They are not happy people...

"Trust, but verify."
 
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Republican NHRECOUNT Filed

Mr. Howard live NOW on Alex Jones...

Republican statewide hand recount filed today w/ NH SOS...it's official...

http://www.grannywarriors.com Patriot Grassroots Recount support
(This is above and beyond the call of toward duty toward the campaign)

RP2008!
 
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Has Dr Paul indicated any interest in a NH recount endorsement?

If Dr Paul, or his payed campaign staff ,show no interest in a NH vote count ,I guess we should just lay back and watch music videos instead of busting our asses for him... so here is some music to listen too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dPagNaWccQ

Because without Dr Paul's support behind this recount, it shows that his campaign doesn't mind getting the shaft...Maybe he should consider firing his campaign staff if they are the ones that are letting this slide...Shame on You.
 
Ron Paul - Vote Fraud Victim

Saw this a few moments ago on rense.com:
rense.com

Ron Paul - Vote Fraud Victim
By J. Bruce Campbell
1-9-8


The numbers don't add up, obviously. Ron Paul wins straw poll after straw poll, he wins hack-proof online polls such as AOL's and he gets unprecedented donations and still he gets wiped out by the Diebold machines, which was expected. Blackboxvoting.org has shown us how it is done. The exact same Diebold machines that were exposed in "Hacking Democracy" two years ago were used in New Hampshire yesterday to manage 81% of the primary ballots. Then we learned that the 2004 Iowa Caucus voting was handled by an Israeli-owned company, Elron. Were things different this year? Who is behind John Silvestro and his LHS company that counted the New Hampshire vote?

We should stop hoping that we can beat the house and its rigged roulette wheel, its programmed slot machines and its marked decks and loaded dice.

The Ron Paul campaign was given millions of dollars to clean out the corruption in the federal government. This will be impossible if vote fraud prevents Ron Paul from winning, despite his wild and growing popularity. Vote fraud is at the center of official corruption and will always prevent investigation and prosecution of those involved in criminal behavior.

The campaign should now shift gears and announce that vote fraud has clearly destroyed the American political process, as proven by the Collier brothers, by Jim Condit, Bev Harris, Harri Hursti and the Public Broadcasting System and by many others.

Vote fraud must now be the target of the Ron Paul Revolution. Ron Paul can make a calm announcement that calls for an audit of the vote-counting machine from one end to the other. The audit can be made by the Ron Paul campaign, which can now afford to do it. He should recommend that the General Accounting Office and Federal Election Commission assist the campaign's audit. He can invite the GOP and Democratic Party to participate. If they refuse for any reason, their refusal will prove that they know about the vote fraud and are willing participants.

Ron Paul should announce that fair elections cannot be held until it is proven that the vote counting process is honest and trustworthy. The best weapon his campaign has in the 2006 PBS program, "Hacking Democracy." Bev Harris' ongoing work at Blackboxvoting.org can be revealed to millions of Americans now, with the millions of dollars entrusted to the Ron Paul Revolution. The two Ohio election officials recently sentenced to prison for the 2004 vote fraud were exposed by Blackboxvoting's great work, which can be seen in the PBS program.

Ron Paul should file suit to order a suspension of the primary process until a comprehensive audit of the vote counting process has been completed and all doubts as to its honesty are removed. Computers must be outlawed in the vote-counting process. The only way to ensure honest elections is with paper ballots and receipts, as the Collier brothers proved in their groundbreaking book, Votescam. They showed that there are dozens of ways to steal the vote as long as machines are used to count it. The question we must all ask is, "Who programs the computers that count the votes?"

Ron Paul should demand that paper ballots be counted by hand in the open and measured against paper receipts in the event of a disputed result. But first, there must be an audit of the process we have been under for decades, to show how we have been cheated and defrauded.
 
Here's my take on it.

For Paul to have attacked the voting system here and now would have not only have given him less to work with, but he had nothing to gain here except tons of blowback.

Let's wait and see what happens with the recount that has been put in motion by the other candidates. Let its result allow us to build even more evidence against this corrupt system.

Think of it like this....the FIRST primary and the FIRST recount.

Maybe the "secret plan" that some people are talking about (though others believe there is no plan at all, let alone a secret one) is to use our allies for the recounts in these early states, and then dump all our money into recounts nationwide where the margins are closer.

Think of it...we focus on 5 states, just 5. We dump tons of money, we lose close elections there, and then file recounts in them all, get more evidence of the fraud, and then hault the election process and fix the whole system.

Maybe that's all the campaign is really wanting to do with all this money it fell into. *shrug*

Either way, let's get out there and do our part by getting the vote out. Let the campaign do what the campaign does.
 
Vote fraud must now be the target of the Ron Paul Revolution. Ron Paul can make a calm announcement that calls for an audit of the vote-counting machine from one end to the other. The audit can be made by the Ron Paul campaign, which can now afford to do it. He should recommend that the General Accounting Office and Federal Election Commission assist the campaign's audit. He can invite the GOP and Democratic Party to participate. If they refuse for any reason, their refusal will prove that they know about the vote fraud and are willing participants.
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What is an audit of the vote counting machine? Anyone know what this means?
 
Thesis + Antithesis => Synthesis, RP Revolution Style

$33,300 this hour in the Grassroots Recount war chest...no turning back now Patriots...as you know, freedom is not free...live free or die, NH, we're with you...

http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount-
http://www.grannywarriors.com

Here's the official NH SOS press release and count update site:
http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2008/index.htm


(BTW, President Paul is a very smart, thoughtful and hardworking man, and likewise has surrounded himself with people who are similar, as the important political campaign statement made today (and previous) attest...keep GOTM(essage)/GOTV first and foremost priority. This also counters any blowback spin on his candidacy the MSM tries to pin on him, for the record):

See "New Hampshire Recount?", if you haven't already:
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/01/new-hampshire-r.html

So onward, indeed...

And as we all know, election reform is essential for our country's survival, and it is an ongoing project. Tammany Hall election thieves and Callish election clerks need to be held accountable from EVERY angle, most importantly starting bottom up from the citizens (pollwatching/exit polling/voter verification affadavits, recount oversight & involvement, leading Collier-type investigations, petitions for redress, & more...see http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=1310 for primer), combined with lawsuits to be heard across the land (see testimony http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...127&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 ...-guys like these do machine audits BTW; http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org;http://www.blackboxvoting.org; and http:www.eff.org for starters).

Don't put it past them to even attempt to infiltrate and subvert even the most honorable organizations, like those listed here. We need to boldly shine the light on the rats, and send them scattering.

Vigilance remains the watchword...

IMHO, it remains essential that we promptly, constantly and relentlessly punish any attempt (apparent and/or actual) to even slightly subvert our local, state and federal elections processes, otherwise a pathocracy (see "Political Ponerology" http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm if you're interested) can develop in this great nation, like it has in so many failed states around the world. (Honest mistakes happen in elections, though perhaps not as easily as dishonest mistakes...mistakes, not elections, need to be fixed.)

The message is getting out:

Don't mess with Ron Paul Patriots
(especially if RP's on the ballot!)...

Right Alex?

Wouldn't it be great if every state, even county and municipality had an organization like http://www.voterescue.org?

Only in America, folks, only in America!

"Trust, but verify" - Former President Ronald Reagan
"Shouldn't you be kicking somebody's ass?" - Jay Leno...

Precinct Leaders Needed https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/signup.php
MLK Day Money Bomb https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

RP2008!
 
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Pauls' Revere said:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/011108_kucinich_mystery.htm
http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

Dennis is requesting support funds for the recount. Read near the end of the Alex Jones article.
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This is what it http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/011108_kucinich_mystery.htm says near the end of the article:

"...Kucinich said that, "We may be on the threshold of an amazing, important discovery with respect to how our first primary was conducted."

Kucinich is encouraging people to donate to a fundraising kitty in order to raise enough money to pay for the recount. You can do so at http://dennis4president.com.

He is also supporting efforts on the Republican side to mandate a recount after votes for Ron Paul were not counted in the town of Sutton.

Click here to listen to the MP3 interview with the Congressman."


My take on this is that Dennis is a grown man, and he knew what he was getting into when he signed up for the Dem recount. He also understands the concept of personal responsibility, and is asking for help on this from his supporters. The whole thing would be cheaper probably if it were an open primary on both sides, and the ballots could all be counted in one pass, but it's not. Two separate counts will be conducted, and Mr. Howard must not be left to twist in the wind on the Republican side.

Having said all that, I wouldn't be against contributing $2,000 from the Grassroots Recount fund to help the democratic side (especially if they'll do the same on the Republican side, but even if they won't). It's really GrannyWarriors call with an OK from the grassroots contributors to the fund...
 
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NH Voters Call NH SOS

From http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount- :

******UPDATE*******
I have had so many people writing for more information it is overwhelming. Just know that I will be letting you know of any new information that comes our way.

A fellow patriot in Va. has suggested ( and a good suggestion too) that we all call the NH state house and keep on until they know we are serious and watching their every move in this recount. We will not tolerate being robbed twice. Once by the votes and now by the cost of recounting... here is part of his message.

________________________________

603) 271-3242; Secretary of State William Gardner and

(603) 271-2121; Governor John Lynch
Gardner's number was busy but I did get through to Lynch's office. I was respectful, but did take 60 seconds of the secretary's time trying to get any information available.
The New Hampshire state website is www.state.nh.us
Perhaps there are other numbers we can call. We really need to shut that gvernment down until they respond to the fraud that occurred or else it will keep on happening throughout the primaries.
_______________________________________
Not a bad idea. Keep the pressure on and perhaps we will get the recount at a reasonable charge. Mr. Howard is having to stay in NH for this event meaning he is away from his children and family and not able to work. Eric and his family in Manchester are trying now to find a apt. or house that he can use in Concord to bring his family to NH so they can at least be together.
Lets hope a place can be found and we can manage to pay for the rent in thanks to MR Howard for his bravery in going against the political machine and fighting for our right to a fair vote.
KEEP PASSING THIS CHIP IN AROUND WE HAVE STILL NOT MET OUR GOALS AND THE COSTS MAY VERY WELL BE FAR ABOVE WHAT WE ARE ASKING. REMEMBER IF THIS GROUP CAN RAISE 6 MILLION IN ONE DAY THIS SHOULD BE A BREEZE.
I encourage everyone to join our newsletter and keep up with what is going on.
www.grannywarriors.com
 
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