Publius Freeman
Member
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2007
- Messages
- 408
Fair enough (but by then it could be too late).
No matter how much money you have, no matter how great your organization is, no matter how many cast a vote for your candidate, if the machines are rigged, that is the last word.
New Hampshire was rigged for Hillary against Obama. Ron Paul may have done better (placed third, perhaps), but it was about Hillary/Obama.
Someone here called "peacenik" (I think) said this shouldn't matter because it doesn't affect RP that much. WRONG. We will never get our constitution back if the vote is rigged. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. The vote is rigged NATION WIDE. If an honest vote elects Barack Obama for president, then we should support the honest vote. Ethics are paramount, here, people. ALL PEOPLE DESERVE HONEST AND CLEAN ELECTIONS. It made me fucking sick to see someone suggest that it only matters if it's our campaign getting screwed. AMERICA IS GETTING SCREWED. We don't fix this, we are FINISHED as a country.
All Meetups should get ready to switch to Clean Election Meetups. After I get my canvassing done, I'm getting educated on this issue.
With Diebold, from what I understand from listening to Bev Harris, there is NOTHING to audit. There is no proof. Just digits in a rigged computer. Yes, every election should be challenged, at this point, because electronic is all over the USA. We are screwed, right now. We can, however, become experts on this and fix it, before we totally lost or find ourselves in a very ugly revolt.
A chip in has been made to collect the funds necessary to have a recount in NH. Any funds not used will be returned to the donator asap. the funds collected will be used to pay for the recount in Dr. Paul's name and hopefully he will institute the recount himself to show his appreciation for all the work we the Grassroots have done in his behalf.
I am contacting his family to try to get this notice to him as the National HQ is not likely to inform him of this event.
Granny
http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount-
How do we know that none of the ballots will be lost prior to the hand count? I support the idea, and will contribute, but I must know how effective this recount will be? Also, on the Granny Warriors site, it states that money will be refunded in the event of truth behind the conspiracy, but I think the money should go to Dr. Paul. Sorta a dual incentive, if you know what I mean.
From campaign website, Attorney endorsements
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/endorsements#lawyers
Probono for Liberty - RP Revolution Attorney Staff candidates:
Lawyers & Legal
Thomas J. Adair, Jr., Attorney, Slidell, Louisiana
Abelardo J. Arias, Attorney; Hamden, Connecticut
Stephan P. Babik, Attorney, Cleveland, Ohio
Milton E. Barker, Jr., Attorney, Birmingham, Alabama; City Attorney/Prosecutor, Adamsville/Clay, Alabama; Prosecuter, Hueytown, Alabama; Judge, Morris/Warrior, Alabama
Robert W. Bright, Attorney; Canton, Ohio
Phillip Day, JD, MBA, LL.M, CPA, CFP, Principle, Law Offices of Phillip Day, P.L
Matthew D. Dubin, Attorney, Law Offices of Matthew D. Dubin, Seattle, Washington
Ralph Fucetola, Vitamin Lawyer.com Consultancy; Newton, New Jersey
Brandy L. Gonzales, Attorney, Law Office of Brandy L. Gonzales, L.L.C, Mandeville, Louisiana
Karl Hanson, Patent Attorney, Medina, Minnesota
Steve Heath, Attorney, Dallas, TX; Republican Activist
Mark A. Herber, Attorney, Herber & Nash PC, Longmont, Colorado
Christopher I. Kachouroff, Trial Lawyer
Christopher Kalabus, Attorney, Law Offices of Goldberg and Osborne, Tucson, Arizona
T.J. Lane, Lawyer, McKinney, Texas
Raymond B. Mitchell, Attorney, Law Firm of Raymond Mitchell, Cape Coral, Florida
Mike Morelano, Magistrate / JP
Robert M. Owens, Managing Partner, Owens Law Office LPA
Michael P. Pexa, Attorney, Franke & Riach P.A., Shoreview, Minnesota
Gerald A. Spala, Attorney, Law Offices of Gerald A. Spala, Riverside, California
William R. Sparks, Attorney, Canton, Ohio; President, American Realty Title Assurance Co.; Member, Stark County, Ohio Republican Executive Committee
Jeff Turner, Attorney, Law Office of Jeff Turner, Dallas, Texas
Mark A. Ziebold, Esq., LLM in Taxation, CWPP, CAPP, Law Office of Bradley N. Etter, APC, Tustin, CA
Oh, and also, I doubt Obama supporters (or shall we call them "Obombers") will want to put cash into a chipin at the site "Granny Warriors." If I knew nothing about Ron Paul, I wouldn't know what to think of the name (yes I know who the Granny Warriors are.
Email AG office with demand for paper ballout hand count at all machine polling locations before certification. Don't be naive people like they're trying to program us to be...
RELEASED BY: Kelly A. Ayotte, Attorney General
Roger A. Sevigny, Insurance Commissioner
SUBJECT: New Hampshire Primary, January 8, 2008
DATE: January 4, 2008
RELEASE TIME: Friday, January 4, 2008
CONTACT: Assistant Attorney General James Kennedy
New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office, 1-866-868-3703 or (603) 271-3650
Assistant United States Attorney Mark S. Zuckerman, (603) 225-1552
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND UNITED STATES ATTORNEY TO STAFF ELECTION INQUIRY AND COMPLAINT LINES FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
New Hampshire Attorney General Kelly Ayotte and United States Attorney Tom Colantuono announced today that both the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office and the United States Attorney’s Office will staff election inquiry and complaint lines at their respective offices throughout the day and evening during the New Hampshire Presidential Primary Election on January 8, 2008.
The New Hampshire Attorney General’s toll free election line phone number is:
1-866-868-3703
(1-866-VOTER03)
1-603-271-3650 (out-of-state)
This phone line will be staffed from 7 am to 9 pm on Primary Day. Inquiries and complaints may also be submitted via e-mail at [email protected] or by visiting the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office website at and clicking on “election law“ at the bottom of the list of quick links.
The United States Attorney’s election line phone number is:
(603) 545-2562
This phone line will also be staffed from 7 am to 9 pm on Primary Day. Inquiries and complaints may also be submitted through the United States Attorney’s website at www.usdoj.gov/usao/nh clicking on the “email us” link.
The state and federal election lines are available to all individuals who may have questions regarding their voting rights and/or who may want to file complaints with the New Hampshire Attorney General or the United States Attorney regarding their right to vote or any other election law violation.
Email AG office with demand for paper ballout handcount at all machine polling locations before certification. Don't be naive people like they're trying to program us to be...
"You say you have been spoken ill of. What then? Can you think that while you are a good man that all will speak well of you? If you knew the person who has defamed you, nothing is more likely than that you would justly value yourself upon that man's censure as being the highest applause."
- Samuel Adams
“Americans never quit.”
~ Douglas MacArthur
Now listen, so called Leaders of the Free World. Don't you FKEN DARE quit! I swear to God, I wld kill to have a vote in your elections. But I DON'T. I am Australian, and I'm working my ass off to get back over there as soon as possible to help canvass & convert! (I've already donated to the campaign, thank you paypal.)
Now, if you are even THINKING about quitting on Ron Paul. You are turning your back on Freedom, Liberty, Peace, Truth - & above ALL, you are turning your back on America! You are turning you back on your future children. You're turning your back on God.
“A quitter never wins and a winner never quits”
~ Napoleon Hill
...
Let's keep it positive.
Thank you, Sam.