Privatise liquor stores and you wont live to see your kids grow up
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Why the need to make it illegal. Is liquor illegal?
If illegal they wouldn't be able to regulate and tax the hell out of it.
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I don't believe the chart. For one thing, when I was in Colorado, you could only buy 3.2 beer in supermarkets. If you wanted anything harder you had to go to a liquor store. That doesn't equate to "no control". 'Course, that was a while ago now.
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I'm living in a state that doesn't have any control over liquor (Indiana)?
Wow. Never would have guessed. Maybe I'm missing the argument their making but in this state:
1. Must be 21 to buy and I've been refused sale on a box of beer because I had a 16yr with me at the time.
2. If you're under 21 you're not allowed to transport alcohol (your kid isn't allowed to drive you to the store to get more beer) and I think being DD under 21 is taking a pretty good risk.
3. Being drunk in the passenger seat of a car has been convicted as public intoxication in our courts.
4. Being drunk anywhere you can be seen from a public location (even on your property) according to police is public intoxication.
5. Non driving passengers of a vehicle aren't allowed to enjoy a drink under normal circumstances. (limo services and stuff have hoops to jump through, don't know what hoops though)
6. Can't buy alcohol on Sunday.
I've often complained that Indiana was too controlling on the topic (specifically the Sunday ban, open container law, broad definition of public intoxication and age for alcohol transport laws)
I had no idea this is what no oversight looks like.
Wow. Never would have guessed. Maybe I'm missing the argument their making but in this state:
1. Must be 21 to buy and I've been refused sale on a box of beer because I had a 16yr with me at the time.
2. If you're under 21 you're not allowed to transport alcohol (your kid isn't allowed to drive you to the store to get more beer) and I think being DD under 21 is taking a pretty good risk.
3. Being drunk in the passenger seat of a car has been convicted as public intoxication in our courts.
4. Being drunk anywhere you can be seen from a public location (even on your property) according to police is public intoxication.
5. Non driving passengers of a vehicle aren't allowed to enjoy a drink under normal circumstances. (limo services and stuff have hoops to jump through, don't know what hoops though)
6. Can't buy alcohol on Sunday.
I've often complained that Indiana was too controlling on the topic (specifically the Sunday ban, open container law, broad definition of public intoxication and age for alcohol transport laws)
I had no idea this is what no oversight looks like.
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Yeah, pretty sure every one of those states have laws that prohibit passengers in cars from drinking, (aside from Mississippi, IIRC) they all have relatively low legal limits, they all have arbitrary DUI check points...
In the states I've lived you have to be 21 and have ID to carry alcohol out of a store. My father has a bad back and they wouldn't let me carry the case of beer out of the store because I didn't have my ID on me. You cannot have open containers outside of bars. You cannot drink at parks, while fishing etc. You cannot have an open container in the car, even if you aren't drinking. (closed bottles) Bars have restrictions on when they can be open. You have to have valid ID in one state was if you appear under 40, the other if you appear under 27. Expired IDs or broken IDs are not acceptable. One state I've lived in refused Sunday liquor sales until recently. The taxes are outrageous. Some towns are dry, you must bag cases or will be ticketed. I've had people tell me that you cannot go to the same store twice in one day. (perhaps that was their policy) One state has no legal limit, simply an officer's word that you appear intoxicated. Judges have been arrested for DUIs only to blow .00.
ETC. ETC. ETC.
Free market my ass.
And the commercial was ridiculous. Logical fallacy upon fallacy. Mainly their blatant appeal to emotion. Trust and believe that type of bullshit will have a few members here against the measure.
In the states I've lived you have to be 21 and have ID to carry alcohol out of a store. My father has a bad back and they wouldn't let me carry the case of beer out of the store because I didn't have my ID on me. You cannot have open containers outside of bars. You cannot drink at parks, while fishing etc. You cannot have an open container in the car, even if you aren't drinking. (closed bottles) Bars have restrictions on when they can be open. You have to have valid ID in one state was if you appear under 40, the other if you appear under 27. Expired IDs or broken IDs are not acceptable. One state I've lived in refused Sunday liquor sales until recently. The taxes are outrageous. Some towns are dry, you must bag cases or will be ticketed. I've had people tell me that you cannot go to the same store twice in one day. (perhaps that was their policy) One state has no legal limit, simply an officer's word that you appear intoxicated. Judges have been arrested for DUIs only to blow .00.
ETC. ETC. ETC.
Free market my ass.
And the commercial was ridiculous. Logical fallacy upon fallacy. Mainly their blatant appeal to emotion. Trust and believe that type of bullshit will have a few members here against the measure.
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http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/state_various_sales_rates_2000-2010.pdf
Perhaps someone from New Hampshire can tell me exactly what this means. Mainly "q"
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Also note that that list is from 2010. Cigarette tax per pack is now 4.35 in New York for instance. There is also a 1.00 federal tax per pack.
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