PPP Poll - Arizona GOP Presidential Primary / Ron Paul Tied for Second

[The Moravian]

Just like with Rand's campaign, women would respond better if Dr. Paul's wife, daughters and grand-daughters would be seen with him more often, in videos with him, and even speaking for him at forums and luncheons, like Rand's wife Kelly did.

It also would help to add personable terminology to his speeches, women need a personal connection, not merely facts and figures. The female mind is more complicated than men's, it is more cautious and requires more reassurance before deciding.

Look at the "undecided" percentage in most polls, women are almost always more undecided early on, until the very end of the campaign.

 

[TNforPaul45]

He needs to appeal to emotion. Talking about his family life, his marriage of 50+ years and the family values he instilled in his children.

You have no idea how true this is. He has already appealed to the Intellectual base (5%) and now he needs to appeal to the Emotional votes (95%).

 

[SWATH]

I'm not a sexist by ANY stretch but I call 'em like I see 'em. This is not meant to be cast disparagingly on all women but I must say in my own experience EVERY woman I know is fuckshit stupid when it comes to politics but one or two, frustratingly so. In their partial defense I must also add that at least 50% of the men I know are also fuckhead stupid on politics. People in general must just be dumbfucks but for whatever reason it seems men choose to be marginally less dumbfuckish about politics.

 

[ProfNo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30yxHqSUva8#t=00m29s

I remember when they released that commercial--so bad. And at the same time, there were all these amazing youtube videos. They could have used any of them to a much better end. Just compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gKOCb4QBA&feature=related

Really hope there is better campaign management this time around. Ron Paul's message is rock solid; they just need to put it in a package that the average person can understand.

 

[The Moravian]

The videos need to be 30 seconds for a commercial TV spot, most of the youtube videos, though really great for the internet, were 2-3 minutes long, too long for TV.

 

[anaconda]

Mitt Romney and John McCain. What is wrong with Arizona voters?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Mitt Romney and John McCain. What is wrong with Arizona voters?

What's wrong with voters in general?

 

[tsai3904]

What's wrong with voters in general?

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/05/magnitude-of-romneys-problem.html

In New Hampshire the numbers are almost identical to what they are nationally with 61% of GOP voters unwilling to support someone who supported a health insurance mandate even at the state level and just 14% willing to.

Now you might wonder- Romney's the early favorite in New Hampshire and Nevada and he's at or close to the top in most national polling too- how is that possible given these numbers on health insurance? The answer is at this point your average Republican primary voters doesn't know about his record on this issue. In New Hampshire he leads among GOPers unwilling to vote for someone who supported a state level mandate with 27% to 14% for Mike Huckabee and 13% for Newt Gingrich. It's a similar story in Nevada where he leads with 22% among people who say they wouldn't vote for a mandate supporter to 16% for Donald Trump and 13% for Gingrich.

The average voter isn't up to date on issues/records of politicians.

 

[Romantarchist]

I'm not a sexist by ANY stretch but I call 'em like I see 'em. This is not meant to be cast disparagingly on all women but I must say in my own experience EVERY woman I know is fuckshit stupid when it comes to politics but one or two, frustratingly so. In their partial defense I must also add that at least 50% of the men I know are also fuckhead stupid on politics. People in general must just be dumbfucks but for whatever reason it seems men choose to be marginally less dumbfuckish about politics.

I don't see anything wrong with what you said. I think the reason the Founding Fathers didn't consider the issue of women's suffrage in the Constitution was because #1: they saw women as more politically authoritarian than men. Current polls support this, showing women are more likely to support tax increases, more likely to oppose spending cuts, more likely to support gun control, more likely to oppose drug legalization. Also this forum, which is mostly a sausage fest. And #2: they saw women's thinking as too focused on following social trends, being seen as cool and mainstream, conformity, being liked by others, etc. I mean the coolest political issue these days is gay marriage, which 18-29 year old women overwhelmingly support? Why? Because Lady Gaga, Hollywood celebrities, the cast of Glee, the cast of Sex And The City all support it. This is also why political extremists on both the right and left are usually men. Holding extreme, radical views doesn't make you popular, it makes you socially isolated.

But enough about that. I plan on doing what I can to help out Ron Paul here in my home state. I'm doing some campaigning up in Flagstaff in the summer and also some down here in Chandler. I have several potential converts on hand that I'm going to be sending RP videos to. Let's take Arizona for liberty.

 

[sailingaway]

I don't see anything wrong with what you said. I think the reason the Founding Fathers didn't consider the issue of women's suffrage in the Constitution was because #1: they saw women as more politically authoritarian than men. Current polls support this, showing women are more likely to support tax increases, more likely to oppose spending cuts, more likely to support gun control, more likely to oppose drug legalization. Also this forum, which is mostly a sausage fest. And #2: they saw women's thinking as too focused on following social trends, being seen as cool and mainstream, conformity, being liked by others, etc. I mean the coolest political issue these days is gay marriage, which 18-29 year old women overwhelmingly support? Why? Because Lady Gaga, Hollywood celebrities, the cast of Glee, the cast of Sex And The City all support it. This is also why political extremists on both the right and left are usually men. Holding extreme, radical views doesn't make you popular, it makes you socially isolated.

But enough about that. I plan on doing what I can to help out Ron Paul here in my home state. I'm doing some campaigning up in Flagstaff in the summer and also some down here in Chandler. I have several potential converts on hand that I'm going to be sending RP videos to. Let's take Arizona for liberty.

New Jersey had women's suffrage at the time the Constitution was signed and into the 1800s.

 

[nate895]

New Jersey had women's suffrage at the time the Constitution was signed and into the 1800s.

For a really random group of women who managed to slip through the cracks. Not many women owned property, and the writers of the NJ constitution neglected to remember there were like a couple hundred women in the whole state who owned enough property to vote and would exercise that right. They found out about it and quickly changed the Constitution. Not that I'm opposed to women's suffrage, though.

 

[dude58677]

I think you are all worrying too much. What about all the Tea Party victories last November? Even more some of the Tea Party candidates were women when their opponents were men such as Sharon Angle vs Harry Reid.
So if the truth is on our side, eventually people will come around. He has done well in this poll.


Last, we are a Republic and not a democracy which is why we have caucuses and an Electoral College as well as juries.

 

[McBell]

Nevermind