Polls Close in WI: Results here

[Agorism]

Update: 87 percent in now, and Hopper trails — by 137 votes. Good lord.

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[Cutlerzzz]

Of course INCOME will rise, it's called inflation. Problem is, the cost of living has been going up much faster. Are you trying to argue the middle class is better now than 40 years ago? REALLY? Honestly?

That is adjusted to inflation. It clearly shows total compensation rising by a huge amount.

And yes, I do believe the Middle Class is better off today. Today they are paid far more, live long, have computers, flat screen TVs, Cell Phones, and Ipods. Even the lower class has most of these items. A lot of the Middle Class is in trouble due to personal debt right now, and this is a result of Fed monetary policy, not wages.

That graph shows a small decline in the relative income of the Middle Class. It does not show how the Middle Class's situation has changed, only how it has changed relative to the upper class. It shows not the total amount of income the Middle Class has, but what percentage of the nations income that the Middle Class has. Between my graph and yours, we can conclude that the Middle Class is much better off today, while the Upper Class is doing even better. It's a win/win.

Public union members pay into their pensions much more than other employees. Tax payer money is not a part of it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2...ntribute-nothing-to-public-employee-pensions/

Tax payers are paying the union members paychecks, so yes, they are paying for it.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Of course INCOME will rise, it's called inflation. Problem is, the cost of living has been going up much faster. Are you trying to argue the middle class is better now than 40 years ago? REALLY? Honestly?

Public union members pay into their pensions much more than other employees. Tax payer money is not a part of it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2...ntribute-nothing-to-public-employee-pensions/

You can have correlation without causation...

 

[Agorism]

Odd numbers came out of Fond du Lac for Hopper. Way underperformed and that's where he lost his lead.

Will be interesting during the recount. I don't trust one sided numbers.

 

[Agorism]

http://twitter.com/#!/SeanTrende/statuses/101129688122003456

Hopper down 100, w/14 Winnebago precincts outstanding. I think they're probably all Dem leaning based on what we saw earlier.

Not sure why I care about a small scale political fight, but it's tonight's entertainment.

 

[libertybrewcity]

Darling is making a comebackk!!! woohoo!

 

[Jingles]

I really don't care for the D vs. R stuff, but this shows at least people are fighting against unions taking their government and businesses hostage (especially the government unions for they tend to get more pay than the average private sector working in the same job and better benefits... and they are fighting for no reduction or even increases... my god). Voluntary unions don't bother as long as they aren't trying to run the government. Why should people feel bad for people that get payed more than the average person and their paycheck comes from their tax dollars...

 

[raystone]

Dems have won 2 now. If Pasch beats Darling, they will have taken the State Senate. (at least for a week until 2 more elections)

 

[raystone]

@StuPolitics: WI GOPers now predicting Darling victory Very Red precincts in WaukeshaCo still out.

 

[emazur]

Eh, teabaggers != ron paul supporters IMO

If so called Teabaggers are into are not only calling for cuts to government spending but also to the military and advocating a non-interventionist foreign policy, as reported here, then bring on the Teabaggers (seriously, read (or listen) to the article - you'd swear everyone interviewed was a Pauler)

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Dems have won 2 now. If Pasch beats Darling, they will have taken the State Senate. (at least for a week until 2 more elections)

So if the dems win another seat... the republicans can go on a one week vacation to Illinois?

 

[Teaser Rate]

Never said that. Sorry if you were confused. teabaggers think the unions are the ones with all the money. Secret corporations donating to repubs are the real money dealers.

Hey! I've worked hard to build the highest negative rep count around here, stop trying to take it away from me.

 

[BucksforPaul]

Hey! I've worked hard to build the highest negative rep count around here, stop trying to take it away from me.

lol. that's funny but I think he has you beat on the man made global warming propaganda.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Hey! I've worked hard to build the highest negative rep count around here, stop trying to take it away from me.

Don't worry, I just negged you. He won't be catching you any time soon.

 

[specsaregood]

Don't worry, I just negged you. He won't be catching you any time soon.

Actually reillym is the leader in the neg rep count challenge.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/memberlist.php?order=asc&sort=reputation&pp=30

 

[Cutlerzzz]

actually reillym is the leader in the neg rep count challenge.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/memberlist.php?order=asc&sort=reputation&pp=30

LOL

How many negs does it take to get two bars? Anyone know?

 

[AdamT]

Don't worry, I just negged you. He won't be catching you any time soon.

lol

 

[Brett85]

People who want a voice in democracy are not insane or rabid you fool. Koch Industries and Gov Walker illegally tried to strip union power. He gave away public resources to private, mega rich corporations. People are taking to the streets against this totalitarianism.

How in the world are you a Ron Paul supporter?

 

[raystone]

The final result is in...Darling wins and Reps maintain control of the State Senate. Next week two recall elections for the Dems that fled to IL for 3 weeks, ignoring their constituents and their sworn duty to simply debate and vote.

 

[AdamT]

The final result is in...Darling wins and Reps maintain control of the State Senate. Next week two recall elections for the Dems that fled to IL for 3 weeks, ignoring their constituents and their sworn duty to simply debate and vote.

Thanks for the update.