Politico: Occupy Wall Street crashes Ron Paul event

[J_White]

shows how misinformed these OWS people are. they dont know what RP has been doing all these years. most of them probably want a superhero Obama to save them from wall street, not knowing that he is owned by the wall street people !

 

[sailingaway]

Newt's plan isn't allowing people to "opt out," so it's not the same as Ron's plan. People aren't actually allowed to keep their money and spend it. They just have the option of investing the money in a personal retirement account if they wish. I think his plan is better than the status quo, but it's not the same as Ron's plan, and it's not nearly as good.

But now social security benefits paid out are paid OUT OF what younger people pay in, so if what people pay in goes to a separate account they will have to come up with the money to pay benefits somewhere else, and Newt has no plan. that is what I was saying.

 

[Brett85]

I just think some of you guys miss the point. Ron Paul is going to be Ron Paul, he is going to reach out to everybody and hope his message will bring them over. He isnt going to "win" over anybody, he is going to be the same old Ron. It's on the people to have an open mind. Thats the only way he wins. He's not going to play the little political shenanigans (i.e. pander to group A, ignore group B).

Maybe so, but he simply isn't going to be successful by doing that. He has to tailor his message towards Republicans since he's running in a Republican primary. He needs to look at what Rand did in his Kentucky race.

 

[DinahWest]

Maybe so, but he simply isn't going to be successful by doing that. He has to tailor his message towards Republicans since he's running in a Republican primary. He needs to look at what Rand did in his Kentucky race.

Sorry, but this ignorance is apart of the problem. Too many people waiting to be spoon fed, which is while they fall for the lies. Ron's message is what it needs to be. He works to continue spreading the message and it is up to people to use their hearts and minds being open to the truth.

How you win is just as important if not more than actually winning. Ron has been Ron this entire time and that is not going to change. In the words of Sarah Palin he just needs to keep educating. 30 years and Ron is still Ron.

 

[69360]

Sorry, but this ignorance is apart of the problem. Too many people waiting to be spoon fed, which is while they fall for the lies. Ron's message is what it needs to be. He works to continue spreading the message and it is up to people to use their hearts and minds being open to the truth.

How you win is just as important if not more than actually winning. Ron has been Ron this entire time and that is not going to change. In the words of Sarah Palin he just needs to keep educating. 30 years and Ron is still Ron.

The time for educating and converting is over. We are 6 weeks from the primary. We need to gotv with registered GOP primary voters. That precludes 98% of OWS.

 

[kuckfeynes]

When this happened to Bachmann I said that I hope this happens to Ron Paul because he would know how to handle it proper, and it would get press.

Boom!

He jokingly calls them out on their ignorance and caps it off with a populist reaffirmation of what he's always stood for.

Home run.

 

[Forty Twice]

There is a truism of sorts in that if yer 19 and not left wing you have no heart and if yer 40 and not right wing you have no brain.
Idealism through thought experiment->Practicality through experience.

Rev9

Then I definitely lack heart and brains.

 

[sailingaway]

Occupy Keene sent this out in their twitter stream, a picture of Ron's event, and they say there were twice as many as this who you can't see in the picture:

Twice as many here not pictured @Occupy_Concord @OccupyColleges @OccupyDartmouth @Occupy_UNH @OccupyNH #ows #rpksc http://pic.twitter.com/L5popNd2

I'm following them now

 

[affa]

Yeah, those evil corporations. More socialist, left wing rhetoric.

There are plenty of corporations I'd consider 'evil', though I would never choose that word as my first choice. And those are the ones people rail against.

The corporations in bed with, and part of, the corruption in DC are why some people are upset with corporations.
There are corporations like big pharm, and energy producers, that will patent technologies that could help us all, then bury them because they're not profitable enough.
There are corporations that ignore or skirt safety precautions and cause massive environmental damage.
There are corporations involved in the bailouts and other theft from the public.
There are media corporations with heavy associations with the military industrial complex that put forth war propaganda on the nightly news because it's profitable.

Nobody takes issue with people working together. It's the abuse of power that people take issue with. And just because some right wing people like to oversimplify the point and say others stupidly think 'all corporations are evil, just because' doesn't make you right, it just makes you uninformed.

Because that's what passes for discourse nowadays -- the left oversimplifies the right's position on things, and thinks they're stupid, and the left oversimplifies the right's position, and thinks they're stupid. And the media amplifies it all, with leading headlines and biased reports.

Plenty of corporations harm the people. There are many reasons for this -- from pure profit motive, to the diffusion of responsibility, and more. Do some corporations help humanity? Certainly. But when people rail against corporations, they are talking about the abusive ones. Just because it's easier for you to dismiss them because you want to pretend everyone but you is stupid doesn't make you right.

And to dismiss any critique of corporations as 'socialist' is just more 'right wing rhetoric', as you might say based on your own post.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

shows how misinformed these OWS people are. they dont know what RP has been doing all these years. most of them probably want a superhero Obama to save them from wall street, not knowing that he is owned by the wall street people !

Are you kidding? I heard some of them saying Obama hasn't had enough time to fix the country. This is the left's response to the tea party.

 

[BUSHLIED]

Alot of OWS protestors are future Ron Paul supporters, they just dont know it yet.

Not a bunch of people we need to be fighting right now.

i couldn't agree more...many will come around after they listen to Ron and watch youtube clips etc...they actually may turn to be a needed boost as they as a movement refine their understanding of the issues...some may want more government but once they understand that the gov is part of the problem a HUGE light is going to go off in their minds and that will be great for us

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Are you kidding? I heard some of them saying Obama hasn't had enough time to fix the country. This is the left's response to the tea party.

I am a critic of the OWSers but there is definitely a contingent of liberty-minded people and people who understand that the whole system is rotten, not just Wall Street. I just fear that they're going to get marginalized and the mob mentality is going to take over as time progresses. The union and big government influences are going to collude in order to infiltrate this mob by offering goodies and redistributed wealth and sell it to them as 'justice', and I feel like they'll see that as an evening of the playing field and fall right into it.

 

[AParadigmShift]

Deftly handled, Dr. Paul.

Brilliant.

 

[kr1963]

Is there video of this?

 

[ryanmkeisling]

+1

Corps don't get a free pass. They're as guilty as the corrupt politicians. My biggest global corp beef is Monsanto.

Clinton admin:
Clinton creates a new position at the FDA and fills it with Monsanto man Michael Taylor
FDA rewrites rules- gmo foods become "gras" iow generally recognized as safe
not because of rigorous testing but because the ingredients are naturally derived and thus recognized as safe
now 98% of soy grown in this country is gmo. soy is in almost everything on a grocery store shelf
Monsanto uses its army of lawyers to sue family farms for infringing on their copyright if seeds from neighboring fields blow into their fields

Taylor moves from FDA to USDA
growth hormones in meat/dairy becomes a-okay
routine antibiotics given to animals becomes a-okay
nevermind the potential for growth of superbugs

and more

Taylor helps rewrite rules/regs in the FDA and USDA to benefit big ag, destroy small farmers and fill our grocery store shelves with unnatural food

Job well done, Taylor goes back to Monsanto

now under Obama...

Obama creates a new position in FDA called Food Safety Czar
He puts, guess who, Michael Taylor in that position
Taylor decides he can leave Monsanto for a bit to get to work again in the FDA

and we wonder why raw milk farms get raided?

It's a dance between corrupt officials and corrupt global corps. It takes both. With the backing of the banks behind it all.

+ rep. Government has been helping monsanto ruin our food since before world war 2. People in this country don't realize the dangers of pesticides, petroleum based fertilizers that leave the soil dead and GMO crops which cause a chain reaction of horizontal gene transfer that continues to pyramid down the food chain infecting all of nature. Raw milk is the tip of the iceberg. These companies should be put to rest not by the government they are in bed with but by an educated populace. People do not realize also that when they walk into a grocery store most of the food is poison including the produce and especially all of the eggs and dairy. No farms no food; respect your local farmer, and tell him you want him to grow organic. Pretty soon food will be grown in a petri dish; they are already producing ground meat this way, the only problem is they have found that much like pure oxygen mammals cannot live off of it for any extended period of time. The truth about food has been buried by the FDA and USDA for decades, as many scientists have pointed out only to be marginalized and painted as crazies.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I was at that event and my friend made that 1st video. The life of someone in the Live Free or Die state. We live this

 

[Brett85]

Sorry, but this ignorance is apart of the problem. Too many people waiting to be spoon fed, which is while they fall for the lies. Ron's message is what it needs to be. He works to continue spreading the message and it is up to people to use their hearts and minds being open to the truth.

How you win is just as important if not more than actually winning. Ron has been Ron this entire time and that is not going to change. In the words of Sarah Palin he just needs to keep educating. 30 years and Ron is still Ron.

Yes, and that's why Ron is running a campaign to try to spread the message of liberty. But it's not a campaign that's focused at all on actually winning the GOP nomination.

 

[69360]

Yes, and that's why Ron is running a campaign to try to spread the message of liberty. But it's not a campaign that's focused at all on actually winning the GOP nomination.

It's not 2007

 

[MJU1983]

“Do you feel better?” he asked.

Quote of the day.

 

[wgadget]

Hm. Drudge has something about how Obama handled the OWS crowd, but not Ron Paul.

You'd think he'd run them back to back.

Keep sending this...maybe he'll come around.