Political commentator Jack Hunter, FreedomWorks Director Austin Petersen attack Alex Jones

John F Kennedy III said:
Lol. Yet another thread that will devolve into rabid AJ hatred and false statements from the haters.

There's a difference in legitimate critiques and just being a hateful childish AJ basher.

Don't get me wrong, some of you actually do have legitimate critiques. But in my almost year and a half on here I'd say easily 90% of you just bash with no attempt at a legitimate critique.

Have fun in this thread that is also destined to be several dozen pages of pointless bullshit.
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Devolve into hatred? The only post I saw that fits into that category today is this one:
Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III
Fuck anybody and everybody bashing AJ. If he was calm you would have whined like little bitches that he allowed Morgan to control the "debate" and didn't end up saying anything noteworthy.

You sick, twisted, establishment loving (people?) should be ashamed of yourselves for constantly filling every thread about AJ with your ridiculous child like hatred. You get up there and say it better then if you don't like it.

You're no different than the fucking blind sheeple crying about muslim terrorists. You're worthless. Either accept it or change it.
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erowe1 said:
Hundreds of people, for lots of reasons. But when we're in campaign mode here, which we aren't right now, then fighting against our campaign efforts has definitely resulted in people being banned.
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If people were banned for causing a disruption for RON PAUL's campaign, that would be completely understandable since his name is on the banner, the url, and because HE is the primary reason most people signed up for this board. It was never part of the deal that I would like and support Rand, Bentivolio, Jack Hunter, Jessie Benton, FreedomWorks, Judge Napolitano, Alex Jones, Amash, Massie, or any of the other people we talk about. Some of the people I really like, some I like a little, others not so much...but RON PAUL is the man who brought me here and who unites most of us.

I hope the owner of the site remembers that going forward. The best thing that this board could do (in my opinion) is drop what divides us (campaigning for candidates not all of us agree about) and go back to what unites us: promoting ISSUES that Ron Paul supported.
 
LibertyEagle said:
It's not about Piers Morgan. It's ALWAYS about the lookers-on.. the listeners.
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Its about the onlookers who can witness AJs own actions and words in the following video. The onlookers can see right through the silly people who resort to labeling critical thinkers as "haters" when the only hate seems to be coming from Alex himself:

 
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CaptLouAlbano said:
It goes both ways though: one statement, one vote and there is a whole contingency that forms a lynch mob. There's a nice number of liberty candidates in the House right now. I bet that by summer time everyone of them will be raked over the coals and called "traitors to the movement" by some cabal here.
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Oh no, people are holding people who claim to believe in the same thing as they do to a high standard.

Cry me a fucking river. What would you have us do, be moronic sycophants like Obamadrones, who still think he's going to strike down the PATRIOT Act, Gitmo, and actually try to say he's shut down secret prisons? While apologizing for outright murdering people all around the world, apparently in some plot to bring liberal progressive peacemaking to the world?
 
Fact Check Debate: Alex Jones Vs. Piers Morgan

Fact checking Alex Jones is no easy task, especially when he made over 30 statements in a 10 minute clip. This is only a partial list of statements, a full report would take days to dissect.
Alex Jones

* FBI says there’s a 20%+ rate drop in crime: True, but over many years, not just in a single year
* About 74% of about 11,000+ gun homicides in the US were gang related: As an average, True
* 190,000 people died from hospital infections: Couldn’t find recent data but in 2009 it was the 4th leading cause of death in the United States, and this 2012 article put’s it around the same rank
* The Number 1 killer in history is “governments” who killed 292 millions people in the 21st Century: True
* Britain took your guns 15-16 years ago and it tripled violent crime: True. Britain is the most violent country in Europe
* Michael Springman head of (inaudible) department blew the whistle that the hijackers were allowed into the US: Potentially True. A lot of news outlets reported on this. Here’s one.
* Mexico, total gun ban on citizens, over 50,000 died in three years: True
* German fasle-flag firebomb April 27th 1933: True
* Mega banks have bragged that they have taken over in Bloomberg, AP. True, this has been said on those outlets. I’ve seen them personally but don’t have time to dig around for them.
* Criminal elements of the military industrial complex were behind 9/11: Unknown, but history will tell.
* Criminal factions of the US Military were behind Gulf of Tonkin: True, Robert McNamara said publicly that it was a false flag.
* Criminal elements of the military industrial complex were behind Operation Gladio: True
* Why don’t you go back and face charges for the hacking scandal? True
* Why did you get fired from the daily mirror for putting out fake stories? True
* The government buys 1.6 billion bullets last year : True
* The number 1 cause of death is suicide: Couldn’t find solid 2011 or 2012 data but suicide is in the top 10 and has climbed every year for over a decade. Link
* Why don’t you want to get rid of drugs? Because they’re half your sponsors? This is an exaggeration but a lot of drug companies advertise on CNN.
* 3 times the amount of people are killed with rocks, pipes, knives: Need more information, but this number is higher than you think.
* Murder with a semi automatic weapon is very low. Unknown but Hand Guns are #1 but a long shot. Here.
* Mao killed 80 million people because he was the only guy who had the guns: Estimates vary widely, with 80,000,000 on the very HIGH end.
* Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe, and your country (Britain) has the highest: True

Piers Morgan

There were 35 gun murders in Britain last year: True

America has the most guns out of 23 of the richest countries in the world: True

He didn’t make too many statements.
http://thebostonliberal.com/fact-check-debate-alex-jones-vs-piers-morgan-78918/
 
mac_hine said:
* Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe, and your country (Britain) has the highest: True

Piers Morgan

There were 35 gun murders in Britain last year: True

America has the most guns out of 23 of the richest countries in the world: True

He didn’t make too many statements.
http://thebostonliberal.com/fact-check-debate-alex-jones-vs-piers-morgan-78918/
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Help me with this one.

So Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe, and Britain the highest.
Britain has only 35 gun murders last year, how many did Switzerland have last year?
Does Switzerland have ANY gun control? Or gun control debate?
 
Tpoints said:
Help me with this one.

So Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe, and Britain the highest.
Britain has only 35 gun murders last year, how many did Switzerland have last year?
Does Switzerland have ANY gun control? Or gun control debate?
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England has tons of knife crime, muggings, and other violent crimes.
 
It needed to be done.Alex is like the guard dog of the liberty movement and he's not going anywhere, he's here to stay.
 
CaptLouAlbano said:
The event won't move the debate an inch one way or another. It was a mutually beneficial ratings ploy for both parties. Like I said if it was a calm and mild-mannered interview than no one would care and it wouldn't be on the front page of Drudge. Both Jones and Morgan got exactly what they wanted - attention. And honestly, I highly doubt that anyone is going to turn from pro-gun to anti-gun (or vice versa) because of this.
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I agree, but there is more to it than just this: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...re-gun-control-quot-debates-quot-!-Molon-labe!
 
compromise said:
Jack Hunter:
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#DramaAlert

http://www.facebook.com/ProducerPetersen/posts/469099523149033
was once invited by Alex Jones to be on his show. Instead of having me on he cancelled at the last minute and ran a hit piece, claiming I looked like very attractive celebrities. Strange but true! WHY U NO DEBATE ME ALEX JONES?
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http://www.facebook.com/ProducerPetersen/posts/469099523149033
As it turns out, Operation Northwoods never happened. Also, Oswald actually shot JFK and the magic bullet theory should have been called the "regular bullet theory". Plus 9/11 wasn't an inside job. And a bonus: The Gulf of Tonkin wasn't actually a false flag at all. Plus there aren't any FEMA camps. Sorry guys, I looked it up.
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Petersen continues to attack AJ, claiming that Alex tried to have him on his show.

Here is the message from the Alex Jones Show team he included as proof:
6/26/12 - A user has submitted their contact information.
Name: Darrin REDACTED

Comment:
Hello from Austin, Texas. I just read an article on Examiner.com that talked about the proliferation of conspiracy theories within the ranks of the Liberty Movement. We are wondering if you'd be interested in discussing this topic with Alex Jones either on the syndicated radio broadcast or vis skype interview for the InfoWars Nightly News. Hope to hear from you soon.
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Julie Borowski (also of FreedomWorks) also chimed in on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/JulieBorowski/status/288469350296481792
Oh of course the Piers Morgan show would book Alex Jones to defend the pro-gun position.
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Disclaimer: I am neutral on this and believe both sides are guilty of some wrongdoing, just reporting the news as it is.
 
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LibertyEagle said:
Alex doesn't have a thing to do with the liberty movement.
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Holy crap!!! The ONLY person to give Ron ANY chance to spread his message for YEARS..... The man almost maniacally promoting the first moneybombs.... The man thats years ahead of the curve talking about all types of encroachments on our freedoms and the constitution.... And you have the audacity to say he has nothing to do with the liberty movement!?!?!? AND...AND claim you aren' trolling!?!?!? Wow....
 
belian78 said:
Holy crap!!! The ONLY person to give Ron ANY chance to spread his message for YEARS..... The man almost maniacally promoting the first moneybombs.... The man thats years ahead of the curve talking about all types of encroachments on our freedoms and the constitution.... And you have the audacity to say he has nothing to do with the liberty movement!?!?!? AND...AND claim you aren' trolling!?!?!? Wow....
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LOL...no kidding.
 
Screw you LE for making me defend AJ so adamantly. I never listen to the guy, don't like defending him, but I can't let that slide.
 
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