Political commentator Jack Hunter, FreedomWorks Director Austin Petersen attack Alex Jones

[torchbearer]

Right - all because Jones was being Jones. Some guy files off the handle at Pierce Morgan - come see the freak show.

The event won't move the debate an inch one way or another. It was a mutually beneficial ratings ploy for both parties. Like I said if it was a calm and mild-mannered interview than no one would care and it wouldn't be on the front page of Drudge. Both Jones and Morgan got exactly what they wanted - attention. And honestly, I highly doubt that anyone is going to turn from pro-gun to anti-gun (or vice versa) because of this.

but the 2nd amendment isn't up for debate.
its a natural god-given right. period. end of discussion.
if you are someone talking about taking it with force, I hope someone will stand up and shout you down.

 

[torchbearer]

If people were banned for causing a disruption for RON PAUL's campaign, that would be completely understandable since his name is on the banner, the url, and because HE is the primary reason most people signed up for this board. It was never part of the deal that I would like and support Rand, Bentivolio, Jack Hunter, Jessie Benton, FreedomWorks, Judge Napolitano, Alex Jones, Amash, Massie, or any of the other people we talk about. Some of the people I really like, some I like a little, others not so much...but RON PAUL is the man who brought me here and who unites most of us.

I hope the owner of the site remembers that going forward. The best thing that this board could do (in my opinion) is drop what divides us (campaigning for candidates not all of us agree about) and go back to what unites us: promoting ISSUES that Ron Paul supported.

check out this website: Liberty Forest

 

[Spikender]

source:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ale...mmence-again-if-you-try-to-take-our-firearms/

your claim appears to be truthful.

Hot damn, I can't believe my eyes. I used to be a member on that site about a year and a half ago, and it's rare that you'd see that many posters agreeing with Alex Jones of all people.

 

[Tpoints]

I'm not a fan of Alex Jones, but I finally took the time to watch his interview with Piers Morgan last night. I really don't care if you dislike Alex Jones or not. The man has been correct on numerous topics. Just as he is on the topic of the 2nd amendment. He's a very passionate and emotional man, so what? Doesn't make him any less wrong on those topics. It just makes him rather annoying to listen to (for many).

Give him credit where it's due, instead of shunning someone who is in the right. You should embrace the people that speak the cold harsh truth, even if they do it in a manner you personally disagree with. We should be threatening a revolution, if they attempt to pass gun control.

TV isn't about who is right, it's about who can get the audience to listen, like him, and learn. So if the audience saw an angry man who didn't want to be civil, they won't learn or care if he was actually right, they might not even bother to check their facts.

 

[cajuncocoa]

check out this website: Liberty Forest

Yes, I know about that. It would be better to go back to that IMO. At least then, we aren't tied to any candidate.

 

[dinosaur]

Yes, I know about that. It would be better to go back to that IMO. At least then, we aren't tied to any candidate.

We should be a debating society instead of engaging in the political process? No thanks, you guys are interesting, but not that interesting. I'm here to support a site that wants to actually engage in the political fight.

 

[belian78]

We should be a debating society instead of engaging in the political process? No thanks, you guys are interesting, but not that interesting. I'm here to support a site that wants to actually engage in the political fight.

I may be mistaken, but I think she means getting back to supporting the ideas of liberty and freedom vs supporting people who may or may not use our grassroots network and not follow through on the ideals of the liberty movement.

 

[cajuncocoa]

We should be a debating society instead of engaging in the political process? No thanks, you guys are interesting, but not that interesting. I'm here to support a site that wants to actually engage in the political fight.

I may be mistaken, but I think she means getting back to supporting the ideas of liberty and freedom vs supporting people who may or may not use our grassroots network and not follow through on the ideals of the liberty movement.

That's exactly what I meant.

 

[dinosaur]

That's exactly what I meant.

Supporting ideas instead of candidates? Same thing as a debating society, unless you have found an effective way to spread ideas without candidates.

 

[cbrons]

Alex Jones income is generated by his being seen by the largest group of people possible. His theatrics last night are guaranteed to increase his name recognition as the media crucifies him. So he wins. Piers Morgan also wins because he now has classic video of a raving lunatic right-wing nutjob to bolster his position.

The losers in the debate? Gun owners.

Wrong.

Alex Jones did a damn good job, save for the last 2 minutes with the 9/11 rubbish which was a setup by Morgan because all his other traps failed. Jones got in his face and mocked him. I don't even like Jones, I think he is a nutjob and kind of embaressingly in many areas. That being said, i give him a solid A+ for last night (F for 30 seconds about 9/11 stuff-even if true, it made him look bad).

We need to get in the face of these people and scream the facts right back at them! You do realize that is how the leftist gun grabbers manipulate people, right? All of you who think good arguments with emotional hysterics = hat-in-hand, eyes at the ground, polite discourse need to wake up. I don't care if people think we're a little crazy, that's more reason for them to be damn afraid of us.

Jones brought more people over to our side last night than we lost. All of the idiots who were "on the fence" weren't going to come to our side anyway, they're already dumb brainwashed sheeple.

Trust me, when you get in the face of the statists and show that you aren't afraid of them, **most** of them start to scurry away like the rats they are.

 

[cbrons]

As far as Jack Hunter is concerned, I remember when he was a nobody blogger who finally got a gig doing short segments on talk radio for Savage. Now I ask him to be on my medium-large sized talk radio show on 2 big pro-liberty networks and he is uninterested. Perhaps he is now too big for the non-establishmentarians. Tell Jack Hunter to come on the cbrons show. Tell Alex Jones to come on the cbrons show. I bet of the two, Alex Jones being much more popular than Jack Hunter, the "kook" (according to Glenn Beck) Alex Jones would be more likely to support the little people than the establishment hacks who walk around with their nose up at people.

 

[belian78]

Supporting ideas instead of candidates? Same thing as a debating society, unless you have found an effective way to spread ideas without candidates.

In the event that you aren't being purposefully obtuse, support someone who is backing up their rhetoric until they retire or no longer back that rhetoric up. Was that really so hard to discern from my post?

 

[belian78]

As far as Jack Hunter is concerned, I remember when he was a nobody blogger who finally got a gig doing short segments on talk radio for Savage. Now I ask him to be on my medium-large sized talk radio show on 2 big pro-liberty networks and he is uninterested. Perhaps he is now too big for the non-establishmentarians. Tell Jack Hunter to come on the cbrons show. Tell Alex Jones to come on the cbrons show. I bet of the two, Alex Jones being much more popular than Jack Hunter, the "kook" (according to Glenn Beck) Alex Jones would be more likely to support the little people than the establishment hacks who walk around with their nose up at people.

And that's the problem that I and others have with the Jack Hunter/Jesse Benton types and their cheerleaders, they were made who they were by supporting and championing the most principle man to ever walk the halls of Congress. But now they look down from their perches and scoff at us lowly folk that refuse to rub elbows with the establishment that we were supposed to be working to oust.

 

[Tpoints]

And that's the problem that I and others have with the Jack Hunter/Jesse Benton types and their cheerleaders, they were made who they were by supporting and championing the most principle man to ever walk the halls of Congress. But now they look down from their perches and scoff at us lowly folk that refuse to rub elbows with the establishment that we were supposed to be working to oust.

at least they don't scoff the giant that made them rich

 

[Dystopian]

Jack Hunter has no business calling out anybody for being ridiculous, with his voice/haircut.

 

[Spikender]

at least they don't scoff the giant that made them rich

By scoffing at us for not rubbing elbows with the establishment, they scoff the man that made them rich by extension. Ron Paul did a fine job without getting in bed with the establishment, and it's clear that many here don't like that and want us to roll over to make the establishment happy.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Supporting ideas instead of candidates? Same thing as a debating society, unless you have found an effective way to spread ideas without candidates.

Agreed. Running for office was the best educational tool. Not only do you have a bigger platform to spread your ideas, but people are more tuned in during campaign season.

 

[dinosaur]

In the event that you aren't being purposefully obtuse, support someone who is backing up their rhetoric until they retire or no longer back that rhetoric up. Was that really so hard to discern from my post?

Discern or assume? Because that's not what you said. And I thought that is what we were doing. What candidates have we supported who aren't good enough yet? I sure hope they don't dissapoint, but vetting will always be a serious concern.

 

[torchbearer]

And that's the problem that I and others have with the Jack Hunter/Jesse Benton types and their cheerleaders, they were made who they were by supporting and championing the most principle man to ever walk the halls of Congress. But now they look down from their perches and scoff at us lowly folk that refuse to rub elbows with the establishment that we were supposed to be working to oust.

well said.

 

[Danke]

As far as Jack Hunter is concerned, I remember when he was a nobody blogger who finally got a gig doing short segments on talk radio for Savage. Now I ask him to be on my medium-large sized talk radio show on 2 big pro-liberty networks and he is uninterested. Perhaps he is now too big for the non-establishmentarians. Tell Jack Hunter to come on the cbrons show. Tell Alex Jones to come on the cbrons show. I bet of the two, Alex Jones being much more popular than Jack Hunter, the "kook" (according to Glenn Beck) Alex Jones would be more likely to support the little people than the establishment hacks who walk around with their nose up at people.

Alex has been very supportive of new reporters. You may have a shot being on his show. Remember that local Fox News guy Ben Swann he recently had on and whose videos have been posted here recently?