Political commentator Jack Hunter, FreedomWorks Director Austin Petersen attack Alex Jones

[itshappening]

Then how would you suggest this movement grows in both size and influence, if a percentage of it is so quick to criticize like-minded individuals like Hunter, Petersen, Kerry, Rand, Cruz, et al? For starters, just based on your statement above you have no place for folks like erowe and myself in your clique - now if half of the folks here are choosing them same path as people like myself are, you just alienated half of your potential audience. How can you then grow from where you are at now?

I dont think Cruz is "like minded". He's an israel first teocon. He has small government rhetoric but hasn't suggested what to cut from the budget and like Rubio is just offering platitudes that are essentially meaningless. Though I appreciate strong statements on 2nd Amendment so he's not all bad.

Most of us can see through the Teocon act.

We have to be careful who we consider "like minded".

 

[compromise]

You were one of the back stabbers, and you can't admit it. I know you'd love to talk yourself back into being able pretend you were in the right again. Feel free. I won't read it anyway.

Ron was happy about the rule change. He was probably in on it. He didn't want to be nominated. You and some others just didn't give a hoot what he wanted.

This is crap. Pretty much every grassroots conservative opposed the rule change. Even Palin. A fair few Romney delegates voice voted against it. No way Ron would be in on this.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Alex Jones has the echo chamber in full swing with post after post, thread after thread and blog post after blog post, I think it was a grand slam for Jones. If he was impassionate at this interview there would hardly be any discussion the next day. This is a huge win, there were more truth bombs packed into that interview than any I have seen recently. If he kept calm it would have been a big FAIL. Don't fault AJ for being AJ, it's what he does and he does it well.

Capt, my troll radar is starting to alert.

Mine too. But, it's on you.

 

[itshappening]

Hundreds of people, for lots of reasons. But when we're in campaign mode here, which we aren't right now, then fighting against our campaign efforts has definitely resulted in people being banned.

I've only ever seen obvious trolls banned here. If there's disagreements on strategy and a ban then that is heavy-handed. If there's non-stop criticism and hostile posts about a candidate we're backing during a campaign then you have to conclude they're a troll/COINTELPRO/infiltrator

 

[LibertyEagle]

Thats his role. To act like a raving lunatic like Jim Jones to discredit anything of serious value. Then whatever he espouses is then seen as a crazy view. "Oh, gun rights? Didnt that crazy person on tv advocate that?"

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[itshappening]

I dont think he has a "role". Alex Jones is himself. He's his own boss. He's a radio host and an entertainer. He's built his business from scratch and he doesn't adhere or take orders from anyone.

And the criticism about him not sufficiently blaming Israel for 9/11 is ridiculous. I remember after 9/11 he was covering the Israeli front groups house moving company and those Israeli nationals who were high fiving. Wasn't one of them detained or deported? I can't remember anyway but he has covered the Israeli involvement including the Israeli messaging company in the WTC building. I think it could have been in one of his films.

 

[specsaregood]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree.

I disagree LE. If it was another show or channel I might agree. But Morgan proved that he wasn't interested in a real discussion on the subject based on how he treated the GOA guy. I think AJ did perfectly, morgan didn't deserve anything else.

 

[erowe1]

This is crap. Pretty much every grassroots conservative opposed the rule change. Even Palin. A fair few Romney delegates voice voted against it. No way Ron would be in on this.

I don't know. He definitely didn't want to be nominated. And he definitely didn't complain about that. If he or one of his surrogates didn't explicitly go along with it behind the scenes, then he was relieved to have someone other than himself be the one to tell his delegates they couldn't nominate him.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I disagree LE. If it was another show or channel I might agree. But Morgan proved that he wasn't interested in a real discussion on the subject based on how he treated the GOA guy. I think AJ did perfectly, morgan didn't deserve anything else.

It's not about Piers Morgan. It's ALWAYS about the lookers-on.. the listeners.

 

[dinosaur]

Thats his role. To act like a raving lunatic like Jim Jones to discredit anything of serious value. Then whatever he espouses is then seen as a crazy view. "Oh, gun rights? Didnt that crazy person on tv advocate that?"

That is exactly what Alex just did. No sane person lets their passion get the better of them the way that he did in that interview. But Alex is sane, and it was intentional.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

I'm not a fan of Alex Jones, but I finally took the time to watch his interview with Piers Morgan last night. I really don't care if you dislike Alex Jones or not. The man has been correct on numerous topics. Just as he is on the topic of the 2nd amendment. He's a very passionate and emotional man, so what? Doesn't make him any less wrong on those topics. It just makes him rather annoying to listen to (for many).

Give him credit where it's due, instead of shunning someone who is in the right. You should embrace the people that speak the cold harsh truth, even if they do it in a manner you personally disagree with. We should be threatening a revolution, if they attempt to pass gun control.

 

[specsaregood]

It's not about Piers Morgan. It's ALWAYS about the lookers-on.. the listeners.

I get that, but it is about him. Morgan is not impartial and by the very fact that he has his show, gives an air of authority. AJ crapped all over that supposed authority. I'm of the opinion that it was all a net gain.

 

[phill4paul]

It's not about Piers Morgan. It's ALWAYS about the lookers-on.. the listeners.

And I hope the lookers-on..the listeners took this single thing from that interview....

"1776 Will Commence Again If You Try To Take Our Firearms"

 

[erowe1]

And I hope the lookers-on..the listeners took this single thing from that interview....

"1776 Will Commence Again If You Try To Take Our Firearms"

I didn't see the interview. But this is definitely a true statement, and those who do support taking our guns need to know it.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Lol. Yet another thread that will devolve into rabid AJ hatred and false statements from the haters.

There's a difference in legitimate critiques and just being a hateful childish AJ basher.

Don't get me wrong, some of you actually do have legitimate critiques. But in my almost year and a half on here I'd say easily 90% of you just bash with no attempt at a legitimate critique.

Have fun in this thread that is also destined to be several dozen pages of pointless bullshit.

 

[bunklocoempire]

The truth got out and for that I am very thankful.

How folks react to truth doesn't have anything to do with how the truth was presented, but rather where folks are in their thinking.

Lead a horse to water.. -It sure ain't the water sitting in a dirty hole or water sitting in a pretty goblet's fault.

 

[alsis8xmy]

Please take note our relative post counts and tell me again who's trolling?

Mine too. But, it's on you.

 

[alsis8xmy]

Lol. Yet another thread that will devolve into rabid AJ hatred and false statements from the haters.

There's a difference in legitimate critiques and just being a hateful childish AJ basher.

Don't get me wrong, some of you actually do have legitimate critiques. But in my almost year and a half on here I'd say easily 90% of you just bash with no attempt at a legitimate critique.

Have fun in this thread that is also destined to be several dozen pages of pointless bullshit.

agreed

 

[AuH20]

Alex is not a political figure. He can drop his trousers and light farts for all I care. He is not restrained by the false dialogue that goes on.

 

[cajuncocoa]

It's not about Piers Morgan. It's ALWAYS about the lookers-on.. the listeners.

Again, some of you worry too much about people who can't think critically. If they could, they wouldn't need to be persuaded about the 2nd Amendment; they would already KNOW.