Planning for Rand Paul 2020

harikaried

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What should Washington DC be like over the next 4 years to have Rand Paul need to run again in 20/20 and for the population to be excited to vote for him? (On the flip side, what should be avoided over the next 4 years that would prevent a Paul candidacy?)
 
A Republican win in 2016 would prevent a Paul candidacy. That won't happen unless Hillary goes to jail (which is unlikely).

I don't know that Ran would run again. If he does, I would go full libertarian, but I don't know that he enjoys politics and working with a bunch of morons.
 
He's said he won't be a candidate who runs every cycle, and for 2016 he was taking his shot. I'm sure he could still be convinced if the time comes again, but not if half the so-called liberty movement and sunny day patriots are going to spend that time undermining his campaign.
 
Better campaign staff, much more hard line libertarian, do not back down when questioned. Show strength and fortitude. But also make jokes and appear likable.

I don't know that he has the charisma for it. It's possible though.
 
Run Massie for Mitch Senate seat and find someone to run for Rand's in 2022.
 
Massie for Pres?

Still left with the same scenario, though.

Best thing to do is start right this second and regroup at the grassroots level. Grassroots needs to regroup. Need a concise and precise plan not only on what regrouping itself entails but the vision needs to be reassessed in a realistic manner. Having money bombs every other month isn't the answer. That kind of thing isn't what I'm talking about.

We're at a point where the reality needs to be understood that it is the course of history that needs to be addressed. Getting elected president should be the last thing on anyone's mind right now.

That's just me talking, though. Most will likely disagree. And that's fine. Is what it is.
 
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I hope he does consider running again in the future. This was a tough election cycle. Rand had a lot of things working against him. Rise of Isis, running for Senate and President at same time (which required a lot of money from his campaign which was already limited on funds), and a lot of competition from other candidates who took parts of his message and ran with it.

If Rand decided to run in 2020, I don't see him facing as much competition (though I can see Cruz running again), and he wouldn't have to worry about his Senate seat. Really though, a lot of things can happen in 4 years time that can either favor another run or make it unlikely. Rand also may simply not want to run again. Some of the reasons cited for him not being a best fit as a candidate for President are some of the same reasons I like him. He isn't someone who is comfortable asking for money, and he is a family person which makes touring the country day in and day out very difficult. Having someone who is about family is great, and I like the idea of someone not wanting to beg for money at every stop, but maybe that's simply not feasible.

I would love for Rand to run again, but we will just have to wait and see. If he does, hopefully the time will be right.
 
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I don't think he will run again unless people really start rallying behind him in droves in the Senate, even more so than he has gotten up to this point. If he so happens to position himself as a leader of the party with wide popular support. But more likely he will remain a relatively fringe liberty rebel and will just do what he can in the Senate and be done with it.
 
I hope he does consider running again in the future. This was a tough election cycle. Rand had a lot of things working against him. Rise of Isis, running for Senate and President at same time (which required a lot of money from his campaign which was already limited on funds), and a lot of competition from other candidates who took parts of his message and ran with it.

If Rand decided to run in 2020, I don't see him facing as much competition (though I can se Cruz running again), and he wouldn't have to worry about his Senate seat. Really though, a lot of things can happen in 4 years time that can either favor another run or make it unlikely. Rand also may simply not want to run again. Some of the reasons cited for him not being a best fit as a candidate for President are some of the same reasons I like him. He isn't someone who is comfortable asking for money, and he is a family person which makes touring the country day in and day out very difficult.

I would love for Rand to run again, but we will just have to wait and see. If he does, hopefully the time will be right.

I would support him in an instant. this time we had so much stacked against us.. Trump sucking all the air out of the room and Cruz taking Rand's positions and rhetoric as well as Bernie sanders taking many uniformed but well-meaning independents and democrats .. it was a lot to battle.
 
I highly doubt Rand will be running again. And at this point, I can't think of any of our liberty candidates who would make good presidential candidates. Rand would make a great Senate Majority leader though...
 
I highly doubt Rand will be running again. And at this point, I can't think of any of our liberty candidates who would make good presidential candidates. Rand would make a great Senate Majority leader though...

Adam Kokesh plans to run in 2020. Not many people have gone through such extremities to defend liberty / expose the removal of freedoms as he. He is a veteran, has a voice which projects strength, a good debater, and isn't afraid to call out bullshit whether it be from media or other candidates. If Rand isn't running, I think Kokesh would be our best bet. I think he can manage to get a lot of the people who supported Trump this election as well as the people who supported Rand.

My only concern though is that his arrest records will be reported on left and right.. not that he ever was arrested for something justifiable..but still.
 
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4 more years is a long time...

At this point, I wouldn't have a problem if Rand took his ball and went back to his practice.
 
Since being a billionaire is the key to endearing one to the masses, maybe Peter Thiel should run.
 
Since being a billionaire is the key to endearing one to the masses, maybe Peter Thiel should run.

What I wish Peter Thiel would do, even more than running.. Create a news station to compete with the propaganda machines on TV. He could source truth in media or have Benn Swann as an anchor etc. I wonder if anyone has the ability to contact him to ask him if that is something he would ever consider to do, mentioning the odds of a liberty candidate winning an election without it are slim to none.
 
What I wish Peter Thiel would do, even more than running.. Create a news station to compete with the propaganda machines on TV. He could source truth in media or have Benn Swann as an anchor etc. I wonder if anyone has the ability to contact him to ask him if that is something he would ever consider to do, mentioning the odds of a liberty candidate winning an election without it are slim to none.

The underlying problem is that liberty just isn't popular. People don't want the truth, they want to have their fears stoked by Fox News.
 
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