Planning for Rand Paul 2020

No.... I think we should give up on presidential politics and continue with finding candidates for Congress and governorship. Matt Bevin shows a lot of promise for example
 
No.... I think we should give up on presidential politics and continue with finding candidates for Congress and governorship. Matt Bevin shows a lot of promise for example

Exactly my point earlier. This is the way to do it. And going after the smaller local offices as well.

The only other thing i would add is, i think we should keep supporting presidential elections because it is a useful platform message wise.
 
Adam Kokesh plans to run in 2020. Not many people have gone through such extremities to defend liberty / expose the removal of freedoms as he. He is a veteran, has a voice which projects strength, a good debater, and isn't afraid to call out bullshit whether it be from media or other candidates. If Rand isn't running, I think Kokesh would be our best bet. I think he can manage to get a lot of the people who supported Trump this election as well as the people who supported Rand.

My only concern though is that his arrest records will be reported on left and right.. not that he ever was arrested for something justifiable..but still.

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That was a joke right?

You were just shitting with all of us right?

Some random thought that made you giggle while high and wanted to share it?
 
Honestly, the only way I see Rand winning is if he learns a lot from Trump. Possibly even as his VP. That's not likely, although Trump holds cards pretty close to the chest it seems. Still, I'm not holding my breath.
 
With Sanders out of the race he could rebuild the Ron Paul coalition. Sanders is already done, and his campaign is now focused on getting his policies into the parties platform. If Sanders supporters knew that this was the plan all along, then we would be unstoppable.
 
With Sanders out of the race he could rebuild the Ron Paul coalition. Sanders is already done, and his campaign is now focused on getting his policies into the parties platform. If Sanders supporters knew that this was the plan all along, then we would be unstoppable.

Good point. Kibbe did say the Sanders phenomena took a lot of the expected youth vote from Rand.
 
I second Kokesh 2020

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too much time and effort and money wasted on one position.

its time to stack the House and Senate with liberty candidates. The true power we have is local politics. Get busy.
 
The more Rand compromised and his actions revolved around politics instead of principles, the worse he did the last 4 years. He just faded into the background. I think it started with endorsing Romney. Nothing about him stands out anymore with this watered down contradictory quasi-Libertarianish theme of his. It's boring. He's no different from Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. He will never get anywhere this way.
 
The more Rand compromised and his actions revolved around politics instead of principles, the worse he did the last 4 years. He just faded into the background. I think it started with endorsing Romney. Nothing about him stands out anymore with this watered down contradictory quasi-Libertarianish theme of his. It's boring. He's no different from Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. He will never get anywhere this way.
So, what would you suggest he do? Something hardcore like introducing a bill to end the draft?
 
Rand's national political ambitions are essentially dead.

His shameful display in that last campaign pretty much ruined him.
The "liberty movement" has been totally hollowed out, just a few fringe remnants remain.
 
Rand's national political ambitions are essentially dead.

His shameful display in that last campaign pretty much ruined him.
The "liberty movement" has been totally hollowed out, just a few fringe remnants remain.

This is a Ron Paul/Rand Paul Liberty forum- beat it.
 
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