Paul campaign disavows anti-Huntsman ad

[derdy]

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Yep, that is exactly what I will do. Please delete references to doing this in case they read here

 

[moonbat]

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[kylejack]

Yep, that is exactly what I will do. Please delete references to doing this in case they read here

Excellent. If you get a hit we can look them up on ARIN and hopefully find the smoking gun.

 

[thoughtomator]

Can anyone think of any benefit we might gain from having the IP address(es) of whomever is accessing the account that posted this video?

we could track it down to its source yes

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Same for Twitter info... be nice to see the IT forenzics between YouTube and Twitter.

Did Breitbart back track Anthony Weiner? Didn't take long to prove Weiner was lying.

 

[kylejack]

Yep, that is exactly what I will do. Please delete references to doing this in case they read here

Try the Youtube account first. They're more likely to be on a computer when they access that. If that doesn't work we can try the Twitter account. They're more likely to be on a mobile device on the Twitter account (The most recent tweet was sent from the mobile twitter interface) and a cell phone IP doesn't help us (dead end, really).

 

[kylejack]

Maybe we need a thread in Hot Topics for this operation?

 

[fatjohn]

Maybe we need a thread in Hot Topics for this operation?

Yeah i wanna know too. I've already started something in HT.
But I don't know what you guys are hinting at.

 

[sailingaway]

Future discussions should be there until we want to announce something. Just generally, if you don't want people to be able to look over your shoulder without knowing they are there, that is what that forum is for.

 

[sailingaway]

remember trolls with accounts can still go there. I didn't see what you were up to but if you need a REALLY private forum, let Josh know.

 

[centure7]

This comment just appeared on Huffington Post.

"ABBIGAIL HUNTSMAN is the one who helped create the video and draw it to the media. Their threads of plotting it (and another video for monday) are public, and they still can't quite figure out how to move them viewable to private users only. Idiots. Hey Abby, how does it feel to know that you single-han*dedly just ruined your father's good name and presidenti*al campaign?"

 

[sailingaway]

If that comment is the truth and I do NOT know it is it would be a kid.

 

[WD-NY]

Just wanted to offer some context on why this false-story why is being pushed, why it's important, and why we need to fight it with everything we've got.

The only 'soft' support Ron has in NH is with Independents who are picking between him and Huntsman (they have Ron as their 1st choice right now, but aren't "no one but paul" yet).

Before the media surges Huntsman, they first need to build up a solid Paul vs Huntsman 'backstory'. NH is all about the IND voters and Ron won 44% of them in Iowa (vs Romney's 18% and Rick Santorum's 13%). 45% of NH = Independents

• The reason the media needs to directly and negatively connect Paul to Huntsman first before surging him with positive "Huntsman has the momentum" coverage is because Huntsman appeals to soft Romney & Gingrinch supporters just as much as soft Paul supporters.

• An open-ended Huntsman surge could very easily cause a lot of soft-Romney/Gingrich conservatives to back him, bringing down Romney's winning percentage and pushing Paul into a closer (and expectations beating) 2nd place behind Romney.

• So the media needs to to do everything they can to make this a "Huntsman is winning over Paul supporters" story....

These surges are all about keeping Paul as far away from Romney as possible... Santorum's surge in Iowa didn't need any context because it didn't pull any support away from Romney (same will go for whoever they attempt to surge before South Caroline Perry/Gingrich/Santorum). But in NH, a lot of Romney's base = soft and the not-Romney vote isn't similar to the lemming-like 'evangelical tea partiers' in Iowa/SC...

and since Huntsman has been focusing his message mostly towards 'conservatives' rather than Independents (see: this article in the Christian Science Monitor), surging him without tying him directly to Paul will definitely take support from Romney & Gingrich & Paul equally... and spreading it out is probably not enough for Huntsman to get second.

Long story short, for Huntsman to win second, they need most of his votes to come from Paul...

Case in point: Carl Cameron just said "this ad could turn off a lot of independents"

And here's an example of how they've been framing the contest in pretty much every article being posted on the NH race:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/independents-represent-a-major-unknown-in-the-nh-primary/2012/01/03/gIQAAmWycP_story.html

Fully 39 percent of independent voters in Washington Post-ABC News polling said they’re “angry” about the way the federal government works, higher than the numbers among Democrats and Republicans.

They are no less critical of the particular candidates. While Obama appears to have disappointed many independents who supported him in 2008, Romney has hardly locked them down. Even though Romney holds a double-digit lead in recent New Hampshire polls, his support is weaker among independents, who have also flocked to former Utah governor Jon Huntsman and Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Her weariness extends beyond Obama, however, and though she is open to voting for a Republican, she says she will probably back Obama again. “Everyone I know is really sick to death of deep-pocketed politicians who are sitting around making decisions for the rest of us,” she said.

Ginny Tirrell, 53, a seamstress at Globe Manufacturing where Huntsman made a campaign stop Wednesday, said four years ago she voted for Obama, “unfortunately.” This year, she is planning to vote in the Republican primary and is debating between Huntsman and Paul.

 

[sailingaway]

Yes, before I realized it had been sent first thing to Huntsman and to his daughters' hash tag, I was thinking it was someone in the Huntsman camp trying to overcome the backlash against Huntsman for those really trashy ads implying Ron is racist and crazy. I figured they blew up in his face.

I'm glad RevPak has Compassion running in NH.

 

[mport1]

This comment just appeared on Huffington Post.

"ABBIGAIL HUNTSMAN is the one who helped create the video and draw it to the media. Their threads of plotting it (and another video for monday) are public, and they still can't quite figure out how to move them viewable to private users only. Idiots. Hey Abby, how does it feel to know that you single-han*dedly just ruined your father's good name and presidenti*al campaign?"

Man I hope this is true. That would be great.

 

[blazeKing]

Man I hope this is true. That would be great.

I'm sure most of us know it's not from a RP supporter. If there is proof out there then it's great news. But I'm not holding my breath for the media to report that news if it turns out true.

 

[fc2008]

This comment just appeared on Huffington Post.

"ABBIGAIL HUNTSMAN is the one who helped create the video and draw it to the media. Their threads of plotting it (and another video for monday) are public, and they still can't quite figure out how to move them viewable to private users only. Idiots. Hey Abby, how does it feel to know that you single-han*dedly just ruined your father's good name and presidenti*al campaign?"

A new thread would be helpful. Put all available information laying this at the feet of the Huntsman camp in one post. Include the public video account and upcoming Monday video.

 

[KramerDSP]

Man I hope this is true. That would be great.

Yep, and we then have the weekend to make it go viral, forcing the news to cover it on Monday. This destroys Huntsman if true. He is attacking RP for not supervising his people, yet people in his own frigging family are doing scandalous things.

 

[sailingaway]

Man I hope this is true. That would be great.

Or it could be that we aren't the only one that found the daughters' twitter tag, but it being sent to them could have just been to make it blow up on Ron, and anyone could have done that. REmember yesterday when everyone was trashing every person on the planet named whatever that newsletter guy's name is? Let's wait until we have more evidence.

Right now all we have is a comment on HuffPo. Flimsy much?

 

[FreedomRings]

Man I hope this is true. That would be great.

The comment is probably referring to this thread, which is obviously fake and a distraction:

http://orinje.com/threads/430416-The-paulbots-are-going-crazy-with-our-video