Paul/Bachman 2012

This guy:
Governor of Puerto Rico, Luis G. Fortuño


Or This Lady:
Dr. Mary Ruwart, author of "Healing Our World"


Or This Guy:
Walter E. Williams, resident Libertarian, intellectual badass




Really?

Mary Ruwart is completely unelectable (do i really have to go in depth?) and Walter Williams is polarizing. He's much more of a philosopher than a VP.
 
No you really don't, I was laughing when I posted that. :)

I Neglected to mention that Fortuno seems like a prime choice. His speech @ CPAC was quite incredible, and his record in P.R. is very good. I have no clue his stance on issues though.
 
Ron Paul is too old for me to trust Bachman. She is not fit to be in any position of power. She goes on the floor of congress and gives her speeches without having a damn clue what she's talking about. Saying things like "Obama is taking away our freedoms and this is our last chance to save our freedoms", "C02 is a harmless gas that does not heat the Earth", and "How can C02 heat the Earth when the atmosphere is only 3% C02?"

Bachman didn't say a damn word when Bush invaded Iraq or Afghanistan and she didn't say a word when the Patriot Act eroded our freedoms. And when it comes to global warming it seems apparent she's never read a science book in her entire life. For those of you that don't know C02 IS a heat trapping gas, you can prove this with a home experiment for yourself, and C02 comprises a fraction of 1% of our atmosphere but it steadily rising due to human activities. That doesn't mean the government has any place to be the pollution police and it doesn't mean I will give up my freedoms to reduce our carbon footprint, though I do think it is necessary to transfer over to wind, hydro, solar, geothermal, natural gas, and hemp whichever is most appropriate for the area that will be using the power, some areas just aren't that sunny but are quite windy you get the idea.
 
Why not Nikki Haley? I mean if you want woman vote, that would help. She also seems pretty liberty minded, more than bachmann. She is also a governor and would probably have some pretty good appeal.
 
Why not Nikki Haley? I mean if you want woman vote, that would help. She also seems pretty liberty minded, more than bachmann. She is also a governor and would probably have some pretty good appeal.

I don't think picking a woman necessarily helps with the woman vote. I've seen polls on Palin and she does much better with men than women, I think. Although, I'm not refuting that Nikki Haley could potentially do better than her in that regard.
 
A woman, ahem, an intelligent woman on the ballot with Paul would be nice compliment to what some see and as a cold libertarian.
 
I think strategically, this is the current best strategy for an actual win...if Bachmann was to go along with it. On an ideological level though, I really would prefer not to see it. Point is, I would vote for a Paul/Bachmann ticket no doubt, especially if it were Rand who is much less likely to die or get sick in office. But all this is in the current realm of things where Bachmann is liked and hasn't been ridiculed, torn apart, and stereotyped. If she runs in the primaries, it is very likely people begin to work away at ruining her (as Palin was)...and we just cannot have that.
 
I think strategically, this is the current best strategy for an actual win...if Bachmann was to go along with it. On an ideological level though, I really would prefer not to see it. Point is, I would vote for a Paul/Bachmann ticket no doubt, especially if it were Rand who is much less likely to die or get sick in office. But all this is in the current realm of things where Bachmann is liked and hasn't been ridiculed, torn apart, and stereotyped. If she runs in the primaries, it is very likely people begin to work away at ruining her (as Palin was)...and we just cannot have that.


I agree. I'm not a huge fan of her but she can certainly help shore up the ticket
 
If you want to attract the republican base, I'd much rather have Demint than Bachmann. Tom McClintock is another option.

If you want a real liberty ticket, then Judge Napolitano tops the list, but Dr. Walter Williams would also be a good choice and he's known to conservatives because he fills in for Rush sometimes.

Let's talk about the real world of people who voted for Obama and McCain. Pat B, Jim, and Tom are nobodies in that world, as are Andy and Walt.

Has anyone mentioned that tiny political fringe called THE TEA PARTY??!!!?? Bachmann is the only one that can turn out 99% of the angry anti-Obama voters.

Bachmann is the only one that is heir apparent to Palin's demographic phenomenon. She alone has the looks and brains to take down Obama, in the eyes of Joe and Mary Sixpack.

Jim has stuck up for RomneyCare and by extension ObamaCare. Plus he yet another old white guy in the worst traditions of GOP my-turn-ism. He's not very anti-war, etc.

Paul-Bachmann will get all the various factions of the Tea Party working together towards the common goal of making Obama a one-term President.

I'm not happy with her vote to renew the Patriot Act, but nobody else is Ron Paul. I can live with compromising on one or two issues with her. Especially if that makes our PB12 ticket appear more balanced in the eyes of the electorate.
 
I would never vote for a ticket with Bachmann on it. :mad: She is an idiot, as the "shot heard around the world" gaffe proves. She is also not a liberty candidate. She's a fundamentalist neocon who shouldn't even be associated with the Tea Party, much less hold a seat in Congress. She's just like the Establishment Republicans we're trying to get rid of!
 
Bachman is a loose cannon. A polarizing bomb thrower with about as much gravitas as Pee Wee Herman.

She isn't Presidential (or even VP) material. She'd be such an embarrassment she'd make Palin look like a wise elder statesman by comparison.

No thanks.
 
Nope. Need the best person for the job.

I would like a woman as V.P., but not as a sideshow, and not one who doesn't understand liberty.

Karen Kwiatkowski? Naomi Wolf?

Naomi Wolf???

Uh, I think she's still quite a long ways from figuring things out. At least she was in the last interview I heard of her with Lew Rockwell. She knows there are problems, but her solutions, ehh, ...
 
I like Herman Cain. He is gaining tremendous traction in the conservative base and is an excellent debater who would humuliate Biden. He has a solid resume in the private sector which could help shore up the business vote. Plus I absolutely hate it when people use identity politics, but being black might leak a little more of the minority vote to our ticket and even the smallest bit could make a huge difference.

He has all the upsides of Bachmann (fiery, loved in the tea party/conservative base, great speaking skills, not just another "white Southern Republican") without all the downsides (seen as really kooky, possibly the only person more alienating than Palin).
 
I like Herman Cain. He is gaining tremendous traction in the conservative base and is an excellent debater who would humuliate Biden. He has a solid resume in the private sector which could help shore up the business vote. Plus I absolutely hate it when people use identity politics, but being black might leak a little more of the minority vote to our ticket and even the smallest bit could make a huge difference.

Lot to be said for him. He isn't perfect, but the vice president doesn't have to be. And I just don't see the warmongers shooting Paul so they can have him.
 
I say the old system in which the VP and Prez are elected separately should be restored. :cool: /rebel

They would have to repeal the 25th amendment provision allowing the VP to suggest the President be removed with congressional approval first... then I'm all for it.
 
The were never elected seperately. The old system was that the winner of the election was president and the first runner-up in the same election was vp. Only lasted to 1804.
 
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