Parts of the Constitution that have been infringed upon?

[Patriot123]

Can someone point out to me the parts of the constitution which have been infringed upon? I've been trying to look, and can't find too much, but I know they're in there... Somewhere.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Can someone point out to me the parts of the constitution which have been infringed upon? I've been trying to look, and can't find too much, but I know they're in there... Somewhere.

Dude how much time do you have?

 

[heath.whiteaker]

Dude how much time do you have?

seriously. With the Patriot Act almost every right has been taken.

 

[nate895]

I could be here forever, so I won't even list any of them.

 

[nate895]

seriously. With the Patriot Act almost every right has been taken.

Not everyone, that act didn't take away your guns, Brady did though.

 

[ToryNotion]

I think an important point to say is that at some point in our history the consitution was changed from a document that promoted limited federal goverment and liberty to one that enabled an enlarged federal government. I'd look at the era of the 1860's. This is where some rolling back needs to occur.

 

[Patriot123]

The Bill of Rights has been infringed upon... I'm talking about the actual constitution. I've skimmed through a lot of it, and I really just can't find much. I mean, article one section ten, I believe, says how states can only have money be gold and silver. It doesn't say, for example, that the federal reserve can't do otherwise. But at the same time, there's nothing that says the federal reserve cannot come into existence. See my point?

And Nate: Please. Please just list out a few sections from the constitution that have been infringed upon. I need this for a website.

 

[pcosmar]

Nearly all of it.
It would be hard to find something that has not been infringed or negated .

 

[Patriot123]

Well can you just pull up a copy of the constitution and just list out a few quotes from it that have been infringed upon? Please. I really need this. It's for a website that I'm putting together, and of course I didn't get much help in the previous topic I made.

 

[heath.whiteaker]

Not everyone, that act didn't take away your guns, Brady did though.

Yeah... I got to thinking about that... however if I start to build a Gun Collection I might be considered a terrorist. If considered a terrorist, they would not give me access to an attorney and could keep me locked up with out bail thanks to Habeous Corpus being suspended.

 

[heath.whiteaker]

the Bill of Rights goes along with the constitution so in essence it is a part of the it. It is because of constitution that the bill of rights came into play. Patrick Henry was just one of the people who refused to sign it.... he said "I SMELL A RAT" These Immortal words were uttered by Statesman Patrick Henry when he refused his invitation to attend the US Constitutional Convention in 1787

 

[nate895]

If you're looking for it being violated, look no further than the bill of rights, as it states mere truisms. Social Security isn't in the Constitution, Welfare, pretty much any New Deal legislation, Great Society as well. Congress also said that the President had the authority to go to war, that's not in the Constitution.

 

[Patriot123]

See, I need things for the website I'm putting together that are simply put black and white. I just can't say, "well there's nothing in the constitution that says the Federal Reserve is a legal entity, so you must assume that the federal reserve is illegal." I need actual black and white stuff. Actual quotes from the constitution which directly contradict what we are doing today.

 

[ConstitutionGal]

Actually, you need look no further than the 10th Amendment. The following are to be left entirely up to the states or the people (just a few examples):

1. Education
2. Health care
3. Retirement
4. Direct/unapportioned taxation
5. Communication
6. Travel
7. Environmental laws/regulations
8. Employment
9. Freedom of association

The way Congress gets away with all these 'laws' is they pass legislation, then they use OUR money (stolen from us through the IRS) to bribe/blackmail OUR states into actually passing and/or enforcing these mandates. Take for instance the No Child Left Behind Act; the feds didn't actually say the local schools HAD to do al the things contained therein; what the federal legislation actually did was say IF the states don't 'adopt' the provisions set forth therein, then the states wouldn't be able to received any 'federal' education funds. They did the same thing with the old 55mph speed limits and seat belt; basically, the states either fell into line or they 'lost' their 'federal' highway funds. They're more than likely going to use the exact same tactic to get the REAL ID Act passed at the state level (i.e. bribery and blackmail).

So while, in many instances, Congress isn't actually MAKING the states comply with their wishes/mandates (which would go against the U.S. Constitution), they ARE using subterfuge to accomplish the same goals by using our own money against us (through our states).

 

[Kregener]

Let us just start with the Bill of Rights:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

God taken out of schools is a CLEAR prohibition on the "free exercise" of religion. Installing the religion of evolution is a CLEAR establishment of same. 'Free Speech Zones' and the McCain-Feingold bill are violations as well. Censoring the We The People website from posting materials relating to the Great Tax Ponzi Scheme is a violation of free speech and a violation of redress of grievances also.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Do we really need to tackle an explanation of this one? EVERY gun 'law' ever passed by Congress is in DIRECT violation of this amendment!

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

WHEW! Safe for now! Unless you have had soldiers quartered in your home against your wishes?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

RICO Statutes violated this one BIG TIME. Roadside checkpoints, airport anal probes, papers on demand, no-knock raids, warrants issued solely upon the 'testimony' of criminals seeking to lessen their own culpability, etc., etc., etc.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

This one is tenuous. More people should evoke their 5th Amendment rights when dealing with the Police State, but sadly, most people do not know enough about our Constitution to do so. Unfortunately, you CAN be 'deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law', it happens all the time. Excessive 'bail' (see Amendment VIII), Tasered for asking questions and demanding your rights, IRS confiscations...two seperate cases of 'double jeopardy come to mind: O.J. Simpson and the cops who pummeled Rodney King. They successfully defended themselves against the charges brought against them, only to be convicted on specious charges relating to the SAME INCIDENCES later.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

'Speedy'? Today? Not likely. It often takes MONTHS to get to trial on any issue, and these trials often take MONTHS to reach jury deliberation. They also often move the trial to another venue stating 'bias' and 'public opinion' as their reason for doing so.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

We seldom see jury trials in minor cases, even though it is our right. And every time anyone loses a case, Federal Behemoth or private citizen, it is 'reexamined' by another court...on appeal.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Is $500,000 excessive? $1 million? Happens all the time. Lets face it, most people could not afford $25,000 bail, let alone the amounts we see coming out of our judicial system today.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

LMAO! This one is so simple and idiot could grasp it! The Constitution was not designed to 'give' us rights, it was specifically designed to throttle the government from abusing its proper authority.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

We see what happened when some states tried to exercise their rights. The Civil War. The states cannot override the Constitution, and the Federal government cannot impede on States rights. We are a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. A Republic is a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law...The Constitution.

 

[csinmo]

Let us just start with the Bill of Rights:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

God taken out of schools is a CLEAR prohibition on the "free exercise" of religion. Installing the religion of evolution is a CLEAR establishment of same. 'Free Speech Zones' and the McCain-Feingold bill are violations as well. Censoring the We The People website from posting materials relating to the Great Tax Ponzi Scheme is a violation of free speech and a violation of redress of grievances also.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Do we really need to tackle an explanation of this one? EVERY gun 'law' ever passed by Congress is in DIRECT violation of this amendment!

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

WHEW! Safe for now! Unless you have had soldiers quartered in your home against your wishes?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

RICO Statutes violated this one BIG TIME. Roadside checkpoints, airport anal probes, papers on demand, no-knock raids, warrants issued solely upon the 'testimony' of criminals seeking to lessen their own culpability, etc., etc., etc.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

This one is tenuous. More people should evoke their 5th Amendment rights when dealing with the Police State, but sadly, most people do not know enough about our Constitution to do so. Unfortunately, you CAN be 'deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law', it happens all the time. Excessive 'bail' (see Amendment VIII), Tasered for asking questions and demanding your rights, IRS confiscations...two seperate cases of 'double jeopardy come to mind: O.J. Simpson and the cops who pummeled Rodney King. They successfully defended themselves against the charges brought against them, only to be convicted on specious charges relating to the SAME INCIDENCES later.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

'Speedy'? Today? Not likely. It often takes MONTHS to get to trial on any issue, and these trials often take MONTHS to reach jury deliberation. They also often move the trial to another venue stating 'bias' and 'public opinion' as their reason for doing so.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

We seldom see jury trials in minor cases, even though it is our right. And every time anyone loses a case, Federal Behemoth or private citizen, it is 'reexamined' by another court...on appeal.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Is $500,000 excessive? $1 million? Happens all the time. Lets face it, most people could not afford $25,000 bail, let alone the amounts we see coming out of our judicial system today.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

LMAO! This one is so simple and idiot could grasp it! The Constitution was not designed to 'give' us rights, it was specifically designed to throttle the government from abusing its proper authority.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

We see what happened when some states tried to exercise their rights. The Civil War. The states cannot override the Constitution, and the Federal government cannot impede on States rights. We are a REPUBLIC, not a democracy. A Republic is a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law...The Constitution.

Excellent post, Kregener. Thank you for taking the time to put that together.

 

[Patriot123]

Oi'... But again, I meant the actual constitution, not including the bill of rights. The actual articles of the constitution. I thank you for posting that part, but what I need is the sections of the actual constitutional articles which have been infringed upon. Just a few, at the least.

 

[csinmo]

Oi'... But again, I meant the actual constitution, not including the bill of rights. The actual articles of the constitution. I thank you for posting that part, but what I need is the sections of the actual constitutional articles which have been infringed upon. Just a few, at the least.

I think the most obvious is Article V, which states:

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

It seems our Federal Government has forgotten, on many occassions, to ammend the Constitution so as to allow the broad sweeping powers they have commanded with public education, Social Security, Welfare, Medicaid, and Medicare.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Oi'... But again, I meant the actual constitution, not including the bill of rights. The actual articles of the constitution. I thank you for posting that part, but what I need is the sections of the actual constitutional articles which have been infringed upon. Just a few, at the least.

ok ill have some for you in a minute

 

[FunkBuddha]

Oi'... But again, I meant the actual constitution, not including the bill of rights. The actual articles of the constitution. I thank you for posting that part, but what I need is the sections of the actual constitutional articles which have been infringed upon. Just a few, at the least.

Go to the library and pick up a copy of "The Constitution in Exile" by Andrew Napolitano. Be prepared to be disgusted.

Off the top of my head, Article I Section 8 defines the roles of congress. Among those roles is the ability to declare war.

The Interstate Commerce Clause and the General Welfare Clause have been bastardized to mean that congress can regulate anything they want.