Parent Arrested at Common Core Meeting for Speaking Against it (video)

[bolil]

This is what pisses me off more than anything. I mean, thugs are gonna thug, it's their nature. But the mindless zombie sheep that just sit by bleating doing nothing while this brave man is carried off to face ten and a half years in prison, seriously, WTF happened to America? This ain't my America.

Thugs are gonna thug. Sheep are gonna sheep.
Let this video be a wake up call. The time to fight draws near.

If they can treat one that way, they can treat any that way. What the fuck is this, anyways, are we to remain passive? Passive while our "rulers" bomb other countries and in doing so cultivate hatred towards us? Passive while they kidnap children, and put them into indoctrination centers for 8 hours a day for the most influential years of their lives? Passive while the cops acquire more and more deadly equipment while they seek to prevent us from having even slingshots. Nah, no wound left to fester gets better and the only form of antibiotic power recognizes is ACTIVE antibiotic. The next time I see an authority abuse a fellow human, I am getting involved whether I have a recorder or not. Enough of this.

Civil disobedience? How did that work out? Look at the prison statistics and tell me what is so civil about that. Active resistance. Meet force with force. Enough of this. Enough. That guard should've had his ass kicked, badly see broken jaw lost teeth and shattered orbitals, but he didn't. Why? Because people are afraid to lose what is left of their meagre liberties. We can let it fester, we can let this shit go on. The saddest thing is that "we" that is to say if not you, most of the people you know, will let it go on.

Don't stand up, said the voice behind the curtain, don't look around and see how powerful you really are.

 

[Paulbot99]

It's going to take a lot to jolt the American people into taking action. I'm just afraid to see what the catalyst will be. Lest assured, atrocities like this will continue until we either submit or stand up for ourselves.

 

[RJB]

Homeschooling is the only answer.

 

[bolil]

Homeschooling is the only answer.

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Homeschool? Comrade, that isn't democratic! Homeschool?! What, is your child better than the rest? Comrade, reconsider this statement. Homeschool is a relic of the bourgeois, petty and otherwise.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Hold the Line

 

[Reason]

If you can't afford to have kids without locking them up in public schools you shouldn't be having kids.

 

[Reason]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/story/2012-04-28/common-core-education/54583192/1

 

[Occam's Banana]

"Heat of passion" murderers are out in 8 or less.....

"Enemy of the State" offenders, however ...

The police do indeed "protect and serve" - but most people never wonder, "protect and serve ... who?"

 

[fr33]

Judging from the video the assault was initiated by the police officer. He violently shoved the dad during the meeting. Even if the dad resisted off camera or punched him in the face, he had every right to do it.

 

[devil21]

Which is I maintain top priority for the liberty movement is the elimination of the Department of Education. Cut off the money for the indoctrination of the children into communist principles.

This doesn't get near enough attention now. DoE was ALWAYS a target of conservatives for this exact reason. It's why Ron Paul brought it up in 2007. Real conservatives fight national education because it puts the power to "educate" millions of kids in the hands of a small few.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I've brought intricates to Lowery in public platforms many a time and across a broad range of issues regarding the education system. She's a piece of work, for sure.

 

[Mani]

Thankfully MOST people in these comments side with the Parent.....But check out this fucking boot licker!

http://news.yahoo.com/now-arresting...28238343-9eb72f44-e64d-4d53-a670-6509e5f2c920


"He was repeatedly asked to state his question. Other people have questions. He ignored the moderator and kept rambling. The security guard was then asked to escort the man out. It wasn't the security guard's desire. He was directed to by school officials. The man should have put down his stupid pad and left. He can complain later. Go to the media. Go online and protest his treatment. File a lawsuit. If the security guard had used excessive force on a non-resisting person--he didn't--the man could have called the police and had him charged. Getting into a fight with a security guard is not going help his cause or educate people regarding his message. Rambling is not going to win people over.

The security guard asked him to step out. The man refused and kept hammering. Then that idiot lady stepped in. You never know what's going to happen in this type of situation. Is this man rational or is he potentially violent? Does the man have a weapon? Suddenly here is this lady forcing herself into a potentially volatile situation. If the security guard had turned away to direct that idiot lady back to her seat, and the man had suddenly stabbed or struck him, I would really want that idiot lady arrested as well. There are all sorts of ways to protest what you perceive as mistreatment--but don't put someone in harms way.

Then the man resisted. He deserved to be arrested and dragged out by his nose. This isn't 1940's Germany. The government is not suppressing this man's speech. He's not going to jail for his speech. He has a right to speak. He doesn't have the right to seize control of the forum and refuse to step aside for others who also wish to speak. Then physically resist a lawful order. Screw him. There are real people out their fighting real oppression. This fool is not one of them."


The man resisted? He resisted a lawful order? Is this shit for real? Who wrote this comment? The security guard? What lawful order is that. Don't talk back to the principal? if the security guard says leave, LEAVE or go to jail. That's America? Security guard's words are the law???


This is what we are up against....People who believe the word of an officer is the word of God.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Yeah Mani, there's a lot of that crap on the post I made in Reddit about this too.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian...more_county_parent_faces_105_years_in_prison/

ETA:

WheresTheFlan 2 points 1 day ago (3|1)
To be fair, he was speaking out of a turn at a public meeting. He was asked to stop by those conducting the meeting and refused. He was asked to stop by a security guard and refused. Only then did things get out of hand.

The meeting organizers set up a system for the public to ask questions (by submitting them in writing), and even told Small while he was talking that his questions would be addressed if he would be patient.

Calling the people in the video sheep is unfair - they were there to hear their questions, which they submitted in writing, answered. Smalls was preventing them from getting answers, so I'm sure many of them were happy to see him removed, even if they did agree with his ideas.

IPredictAReddit [-1] -3 points 1 day ago (2|4)
I'll bet anyone here $5 that, if this guy were shouting about how much he loves common core and supports it, you'd be applauding his removal from the event.
This wasn't a Town Hall Q&A. He was interrupting a meeting. You only like him because he said stuff that you agree with, which means you're a-ok with "your side" being disruptive, simply because it's your side.
Supporting free speech only for those who you agree with? Yup, we must be in r/libertarian.

kurlythemonkey -3 points 1 day ago (2|5)
I crack up at the sheeps in here calling out the sheeps on the video. Have we forgotten about due process? They can throw 100 charges on this guy. He is still innocent until proven guilty. If the cop was wrong, is on video. Stop freaking out. If this man was in fact disrupting a meeting, then he was in the wrong. He was given plenty of warnings, but he thought he was above the rules. Are you supporting this? Why? Because of some misdirected idea he was fighting the system?

 

[devil21]

Don't you guys know that Robert's Rules states that if a person speaks out of turn they are to be handcuffed, assaulted and arrested? Jeez, read a book or something people. /sarcasm

 

[Paulbot99]

Freedom of Speech doesn't cover speaking out of turn. Didn't you guys know?

 

[mczerone]

Just found this thread. It should stay bumped.

Parents, take control. We’re sick of this. This is not a CNN political game. This is a public town hall... Listen, don’t stand for this. You’re sitting here like cattle. You have questions. Confront them. They don’t want to do it in public.... Parents, you need to question these people....

These cookie-cutter, pre-vetted, nice-and-orderly meetings are precisely want they want. They want the wrong questions asked, so that the answers don't matter. The next step is to simply stop the public interface meetings and simply issue press releases.

There's no fixing it. There's only building replacement solutions and starting to withdraw support.

Lastly, of course there's rules to follow in a meeting. And you can be forcefully removed from the premises if you're not following the rules. But arrest? Watch the crap that security goes through on Hardcore Pawn. Imagine the crap that bouncers go through every night at bars around the world. They simply keep control and secure the premises. No assault charges on the ejectee. No butt-hurt about how they disrupted a meeting. Just get them out as peacefully as possible and go on with your day.

But in the state sphere you are threatened with a cage for a long time unless you plea out or spend tens of thousands of dollars mounting a multi-year court battle that might yield no benefit.

 

[devil21]

All I hope is this incident and video doesn't chill speech further.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Charges dropped yesterday.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Charges dropped yesterday.

Good.

Now just get that arrest record out of The Matrix.

Whoops.

Not so fast there, Mundane...

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Charges dropped yesterday.

I figured they would be, but the nature of the dropped charges are still absolutely critical. The level to which one CAN be charged for political speech to which some object, is the level of chilling it will have on speech. How many who were in that room afraid to stand and speak up will be emboldened by the prospect of ten years in prison? Will it help them much to know that the charges were dropped -- this time? Of course not. The fact alone that charges were brought against this man in the first place is a crime against the right to free speech, protected in the US Constitution, and universally in the several State Constitutions.

I actually would not mind seeing a positive law to the effect that "Tyranny of Speech: A prosecutor who brings charges for the chilling or elimination of free speech, themselves face the same jeopardy that they indicted. The felony class for tyranny of speech will be the same as the felony class, or the cumulation of felony classes, threatened during the execution of the crime."