Paedophilia in Hollywood

[Intrepid]

Demi Moore recently released her biography “Inside Out” and gave an interview with Diane Sawyer on “Good Morning America”. Moore is the ex-wife of Ashton Kutcher, the good friend of the brother-in-law of Ivanka Trump, Joshua Kushner.

She made some shocking allegations in her book, including that she was severely addicted to drugs and alcohol.
The most relevant within the context of this thread, is that Demi Moore is another famous actress, who claims she was sexually abused when she was a girl.

Demi Moore describes that her late mother was an alcoholic, who would bring her pretty young daughter to bars to attract men.
She was raped when she was 15 by a man; in the book, Moore writes: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/24/demi-moore-reveals-she-was-raped-aged-15-in-new-memoir

See the interview with Demi Moore (starting at 4:00 is the section, where she tells about the rape).



The following video seems to confirm the drugs and alcohol problems. In 1982, The 19-year-old Demi Moore repeatedly kisses the 15-year-old Philip Tanzini (her General Hospital co-star) on the mouth at his birthday party.
Demi looks severely drunk and/or stoned and under some form of severe mind control. Also note that “Somewhere over the rainbow” from the Wizzard of Oz is played, which has been reported as THE anthem for mind control slaves.

Wow, that's creepy. It's like she took half a dozen ecstasy's mixed with a little cocaine. Watch her wobbly eyes.... yikes!

 

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On 21 November 1980, Don Henley (best known for the Eagles) called paramedics to his home, because a 16-year-old hooker had overdosed on quaaludes and cocaine. The paramedics found her naked and she was arrested for prostitution.
There was also a 15-year-old girl in his house, who was arrested for being under the influence of drugs.

Henley was arrested and pleaded guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. All he got was a $2,500 fine and 2 years probation. Henley later denied that he had sex with them or supplied them drugs.
If one of these girls was naked and arrested for being a prostitute, my wild guess is that Don Henley drugged both of them and had sex with them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Henley

 

[Brian4Liberty]

In November 1973, the 16-year-old "groupie" Julia Holcomb succeeded in getting the attention of the 25-year-old singer of Aerosmith Steven Tyler, backstage at a concert in Portland, Oregon.
Tyler had more in mind than a one-night-stand, so he negotiated with her mother to become her "guardian". That sound so much better than child molester!

See Julia Holcomb (she sure looks young!) and Steven Tyler.

Then Steven Tyler had the great idea to have a baby, but after Holcomb got pregnant he changed his mind.
When she was 5 months pregnant, Tyler pressured Holcomb to get an abortion:
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So the baby was aborted, needless to say they didn't marry and Tyler ended the 3-year affair in February 1977:https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-light-of-the-world-the-steve-tyler-and-julia-holcomb-story
(https://web.archive.org/web/2021022...world-the-steve-tyler-and-julia-holcomb-story)

Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman met the 13-year-old Mandy Smith in 1984. He immediately started a relationship with her. They first had sex when she was only 14.
The relationship became public knowledge, when Mandy reached the age of 16 (the legal age of consent in the UK). They married in June 1989 when she was 18 and Wyman was 52.

I guess that not many men would ignore the 16-year-old Mandy Smith (I don't know how she looked at 14)...

At the time they married, Mandy Smith had "developed health issues". Shortly after the wedding, she weighed only 80 pounds. Wyman grew frustrated with her health problems and she moved out only weeks after they wed; they officially divorced after only 23 months.
Wyman never appologised but cryptically said “I was really stupid to ever think it could possibly work. She was too young”.

In a bizarre twist, in 1993 Wyman's 30-year-old son from his first marriage, Stephen, married Mandy's mother, Patsy Smith (then aged 46). They split after 2 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Smith

You're starting to stretch when you are talking about rock stars and fully developed teenage groupies who can pass for 26. That assumes that it is consensual vs. forced or drug rape. Still doesn't quite count as "pedophiles". Wyman was creepily too old for that girl, but Steven Tyler at 25? He was barely legal himself (to drink alcohol).

There are plenty of examples of true children being abused in Hollywood without those.

 

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You're starting to stretch when you are talking about rock stars and fully developed teenage groupies who can pass for 26. That assumes that it is consensual vs. forced or drug rape. Still doesn't quite count as "pedophiles". Wyman was creepily too old for that girl, but Steven Tyler at 25? He was barely legal himself (to drink alcohol).

Wyman sexually abused a 14-year-old! I don't know how she looked at 13/14, but I have to agree that she would be hard to ignore at 16...

So you think it's OK that a 25-year-old Tyler negotiated with her mother to become the "guardian" so he could have sex with a 16-year-old, who looked like a drugged up teenager?
And Tyler giving her all sorts of (hard) drugs, is that also OK?

Some people claim that "paedophilia" per definition is only an adult having/wanting sex with preteens.
Personally I draw the line at 17. I mean when a 20-year-old has an affair with a 17-year-old, this is normal.

 

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Most of the sex with underage children stories in this thread come from the victims. Often these stories were ignored or denied by the (alleged) perpetrators.
But Anthony Kiedis ( singer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers) pretty much bragged about having sex with a 14-year-old Catholic schoolgirl in his autobiography "Scar Tissue".

It was in the mid-’80s, when on tour in New Orleans, the 23-year-old Kiedis asked the girl to keep him company. Kiedis took the girl with him to the next tour date:

The next day we drove to Baton Rouge, and of course, she came with us. After we got offstage, she came up to me and said, ‘I have something to tell you. My father’s the chief of police and the entire state of Louisiana is looking for me because I’ve gone missing. Oh, and besides that, I’m only fourteen.’ I wasn’t incredibly scared, because in my somewhat deluded mind, I knew that if she told the chief of police she was in love with me, he wasn’t going to have me taken out to a field and shot, but I did want to get her the hell back home right away. So we had sex one more time.

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Anthony Kiedis also bragged about losing his virginity in 1974, when he was just 12 years old, with his father’s (Blackie) 18-year-old girlfriend.

One night, when Anthony was 12, he went with his father to the Rainbow Room and Blackie’s girlfriend is there dancing for him.
And Anthony asks, ‘Dad, can I have my first sexual experience with your girlfriend?’ And Blackie says, ‘Sure, son.’
So they go back to the house, and his dad builds a big bed out of four mattresses in his room and puts the girl in next to him.
And that’s how he [loses his virginity].

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See the young Anthony Kiedis with his father John Kiedis (Blackie Dammett).

Even before he became a rock star, Anthony Kiedis as a child acted in several movies in the 1970s.
His father had an acting career of his own, and introduced his son to some of the famous rockstars of the era, including David Bowie, Talking Heads, Blondie and Cher: https://rockmusicrevival.com/2019/05/20/the-most-insane-stories-about-anthony-kiedis/
(https://archive.is/zpuHo)

 

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In the 2000s, at one time I wasn't interested in all the child abuse stories about R. Kelly anymore, especially when he was acquitted in 2008.

What is definitely true is that in 1994, the 25-year-old Kelly secretly married his 15-year-old protegé Aaliyah. Her age was forged to 18 to make the marriage possible.
In January 1995, Vibe published a copy of Aaliyah and Kelly's marriage certificate, dated 31 August 1994, Rosemont, Illinois.
Aaliyah Dana Haughton's age was incorrectly listed as 18, as she was only 15 years.

The marriage was annulled months later by Aaliyah’s parents.
The strange thing is that as far as I can tell no criminal charges were filed against R. Kelly by Aaliyah or her parents. There is hardly information on whether they had sex...

In 2019, R. Kelly was suddenly indicted for bribing officials to forge Aaliyah's age. Like they didn't know before...
This was not too long after a raunchy documentary "Surviving R. Kelly" was made featuring a group of women complaining about R. Kelly's "sex cult".

In 1991, R. Kelly had been introduced to Aaliyah by her uncle Barry Hankerson, who was Kelly’s manager at the time, and Gladys Knight’s ex-husband.
Aaliyah's first album “Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number” was released in 1994 and produced by and featured R. Kelly.

Aaliyah became even more popular when she worked with Timbaland and Missy Elliott and even starred in several movies.
Aaliyah died in 2001 in a plane crash at age 22: https://web.archive.org/web/2021031...s.com/2019/12/05/nyregion/rkelly-aaliyah.html


Aaliyah's debut single "Back & Forth" was a big hit, with the help of R. Kelly.



In February 2019, R. Kelly was charged with 10 counts of criminal sexual abuse dating back from 1998 to 2010. 4 women alleged they had been sexually abused by R. Kelly, 3 of whom were minors at the time.

On 11 July 2019, Kelly was arrested on federal charges for sex crimes, human trafficking, child pornography, racketeering, and obstruction of justice. As his bail has been denied, he is still incarcerated at Metropolitan Correctional Center, Chicago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Kelly


This seems to be the only information on Aaliyah and R. Kelly having sex.

According to one of Kelly’s former backup dancers, Jovante Cunningham, he saw Kelly having sex with Aaliyah on a tour bus.

When the door flew open on the bus. Robert [R. Kelly] was having sex with Aaliyah.

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R. Kelly’s former personal assistant, Demetrius Smith, claims that Kelly was worried he’d gotten Aaliyah pregnant.

Robert came to me, we were in Miami. Robert said, ‘Man we got Aaliyah in trouble’.
Robert mentioned to me that ‘I think she’s pregnant.’

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/r-kelly-aaliyah-marriage-new-details/

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Wyman sexually abused a 14-year-old! I don't know how she looked at 13/14, but I have to agree that she would be hard to ignore at 16...

So you think it's OK that a 25-year-old Tyler negotiated with her mother to become the "guardian" so he could have sex with a 16-year-old, who looked like a drugged up teenager?
And Tyler giving her all sorts of (hard) drugs, is that also OK?

Some people claim that "paedophilia" per definition is only an adult having/wanting sex with preteens.
Personally I draw the line at 17. I mean when a 20-year-old has an affair with a 17-year-old, this is normal.

17 is less than 18. Does that makes you a pedophile?

My point is that there is actual pedophilia in Hollywood. To apply that label to teen groupies is actually a form of normalization. It distracts from and obscures real crimes against real children.

It’s like equating all kinds of crimes as “hate crimes”. Actual attacks, muggings, and murders are equated with someone using an offensive word.

As far as government age of consent and drug laws, [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION] might want to debate you on that.

I did not comment yet on some mother granting guardianship (another government construct) to her teen daughter’s boyfriend. My opinion is that it’s crazy, if true. There is an age old solution to those situations. It’s called a shotgun wedding.

 

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17 is less than 18. Does that makes you a pedophile?

The reason that I don't count sex with 17-year-olds as paedophilia, is that it makes no sense that an underage "victim" of 17 years and 11 months, is any different than 18 years and 1 month.

It also depends of course how old the perpetrator is, a 20 year old having sex with somebody younger than 18 can be OK.
But NOT when he is 25...

I did not comment yet on some mother granting guardianship (another government construct) to her teen daughter’s boyfriend. My opinion is that it’s crazy, if true. There is an age old solution to those situations. It’s called a shotgun wedding.

I think it becomes disgusting when the 25-year-old Steven Tyler got his 16-year-old groupie chick addicted to dope, so he could control her in every possible way.

As far as government age of consent and drug laws, @dannno might want to debate you on that.

I seem to disagree with @dannno on just about any other topic than health care...
As for the "age of consent" this differs from country to country, and is a legal definition, which for the most part I've ignored in this thread.

While I'm against drugs, I'm not against the people using drugs (unlike adults having sex with children), while I am against the authorities that use the "war on drugs" to create a police state.

 

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There is also a rumour that Kirk Douglas brutally raped Natalie Wood (I doubt this one)

Natalie Wood's double alleged she was raped by an "actor-producer" as a child, and her mother covered it up for the sake of Natalie's fame. When Natalie was offered to star in The Devil's Disciple, beside her best friend Laurence Olivier, she turned down the part for unknown reasons - Kirk Douglas was acting in and producing The Devil's Disciple.

Natalie's sister, Lana Wood, has accused Kirk Douglas (39 at the time) of sexually assaulting Natalie Wood when she was only 16.
Natalie told Lana that after she was brought into Douglas' suite, "And, uh ... he hurt me, Lana".

Natalie Wood and their mother agreed that it wouldn't be good for her career to publicly accuse Douglas: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...od-assaulted-Kirk-Douglas-sister-alleges.html

 

[acptulsa]

https://twitter.com/BenSwann_/status/1679513915179380736

 

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The French director of The Fifth Element, Luc Besson, was 29 when he met 12-year-old Maïwenn Le Besco. Besson waited with having sex with her until she was 15.
When Maïwenn was only 16, she was pregnant with Besson’s child, and they married. They split after a couple of years.

As 15 is the age of consent in France, Besson did nothing wrong according to French law: https://archive.ph/haWFL

 

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In November 2022, Kristina Charlotte Hirsch filed a lawsuit against Warren Beatty, in which she accuses the famous actor of coercing her into having sex with him in 1973 when she was 14 or 15 years old, and he around 35.

According to Hirsch, Beatty paid "undue attention" to her and "commented repeatedly on her looks", which "thrilled" her at the time.
Throughout the year, he groomed her and coerced her into multiple sexual contacts, including "oral sex, simulated sex and finally coerced sexual intercourse with the minor child”.

Kristina Charlotte Hirsch had earlier posted a Youtube video under the name pastor Tina St. Clair about the sexual abuse by Warren Beatty when she was 14/15 years old in 1973/1974.

In 1973 I was a 14-year-old virgin and brought and introduced to Warren Beatty on the set of The Parallax View for the purposes of sexual pandering by an adult.
I was unaware of this and from the spring of 1973 until the following January of 1974, carried on a relationship that I thought was something that was special.

Hirsch asks CNN’s Anderson Cooper to contact her to publicise her story.
Hirsch later married actor Hiram Keller, and starred with him under the name Kristina St. Clair in the 1982 film Countryman: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cuser-tells-raped-set-Parallax-View-1973.html

 

[acptulsa]

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1779576061832937650

 

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Since his ex-girlfriend, R&B singer Cassie, sued Diddy in November 2023 over abuse, he has been accused more than a hundred times (!) of sexual abuse, including of underage girls and boys.
While Diddy isn’t a movie star, he was close to some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, including Donald Trump, that were lining up for his extravagant parties, but now all want to distance themselves from the creep.

For 20 years Diddy has been buddies with Ashton Kutcher, not only the friend of the scientologist rapist Danny Masterson but also of Ivanka’s brother-in-law Josh Kushner.

Diddy’s model ex-girlfriend and baby mamma, Kim Porter, died under suspicious circumstances aged 47 on 15 November 2018.
Kim Porter was the friend of Jay-Z’s popstar wife Beyonce and Quincy’s Jewish daughter, Kidada Jones.

Kidada Jones was also in Las Vegas with Diddy’s “enemy”, her fiancé (?) rap star 2Pac in 1996 when he was shot to later die in hospital, but for some reason not with him in the car when he was shot. Quincy’s Swedish son, QD3, produced several songs for 2Pac.
Kidada Jones was also at the party in LA that was hosted by Quincy Jones’ Vibe magazine, that was the last party 2Pac’s rap star frenemy, the Notorious BIG, attended in 1997 before being likewise shot and dying in hospital.

Many celebrities have enjoyed themselves at Diddy’s infamous parties, including at Puff Daddy’s 2000 “White party”: Aaliyah, Damon Dash, Jennifer Lopez (Diddy’s girlfriend at the time), Jay-Z, Russell Simmons, Matthew Broderick and Sarah Jessica Parker,.

Kidada Jones was also the best friend of R&B star and actress Aaliyah that died in a plane crash in 2001. R. Kelly at 27, who is spending decades in jail for his sex cult, infamously married Aaliyah when she was only 15.
At the time of her death, Damon Dash was the boyfriend of Aaliyah. Dash’s rap star business partner, Jay-Z, later recorded several albums with R. Kelly.

2Pac, Biggie, Aaliyah, Prodigy – Quincy - Lawful Path Forums

 

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Since his ex-girlfriend, R&B singer Cassie, sued Diddy in November 2023 over abuse, he has been accused more than a hundred times (!) of sexual abuse, including of underage girls and boys.
While Diddy isn’t a movie star, he was close to some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, including Donald Trump, that were lining up for his extravagant parties, but now all want to distance themselves from the creep.

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In April 2017, Blavatnik’s Access Entertainment purchased James Packer’s ownership share of RatPac Entertainment.
RatPac is a partner in RatPac-Dune Entertainment with Dune Entertainment, which was led by Goldman Sachs, Bonesman Steven Mnuchin. Since 2006, Dune partnered with Warner Brothers and Fox Filmed Entertainment (of Rothschild agent Rupert Murdoch).

There are some interesting connections to Scientology. Australian billionaire James Packer was once the richest Scientologist.
Packer also employed his scientology movie star friend, Tom Cruise.

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I’ve previously posted about Brett Ratner, James Packer, and their connections to Blavatnik, Netanyahu, Mnuchin and scientology.
There are also connections to the disgraced hip-hop mogul Diddy who is expected to spend decades in prison for sexual abuse and trafficking, and (of course) Trump…

Ratner directed dozens of music videos, including Wu-Tang Clan’s “Triumph” (1997, featuring Quincy and daughter Kidada Jones) and Diddy’s “Diddy” (2001).
When Diddy gave a commencement address to his alma mater Howard University in 2014, his guests of honour were Brett Ratner and the Trump/Clinton/Jackson-associated Ron Burkle.
Ratner also attended Diddy’s infamous parties and took Diddy to several premieres of his films.

See Jay-Z, Diddy and Brett Ratner at Diddy’s Daddy’s House on 2 July 2000 in East Hampton NY.

Puffy bringing famous friends to graduation

Combs, who attended Howard in the late ’80s but dropped out to pursue music, will also receive an honorary doctorate.

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Another long-time Trump friend is Russell Simmons, co-founder of legendary hip-hop label Def Jam and brother of Run-DMC’s DJ Run.
Simmons is (or was) also a close friend of Diddy: https://observer.com/2006/12/puff-daddys-black-and-white-ball-98/


Russell Simmons described the late Quincy Jones as his friend and mentor: https://archive.is/oQtlp

See Russell Simmons getting the VX Award for lifetime achievement from Quincy’s Vibe, cheered by his then wife Kimora Lee Simmons (far left), Quincy Jones (center), and LL Cool J , 20 November 2003.

Brett Ratner also described Quincy Jones as his friend and mentor: https://archive.is/GjPjk


Model Keri Claussen Khalighi has been one of at least 13 women that since 2017 have accused Russell Simmons of sexual assault. Claussen Khalighi accused Simmons of assaulting her in 1991 when she was only 17, in full view of Brett Ratner (first he assaulted her, and then raped her when she took a shower?!?).

Ratner and Simons have predictably denied the dozens of accusations of sexual misconduct. These days, Simmons has taken refuge in Bali, Indonesia: https://archive.is/gZGiS


In 2013 and 2014, none other than Len Blavatnik led two $100 million investment rounds, which included James Packer as an investor, into the Beats Electronics of Jimmy Iovine and sidekick Dr Dre: https://web.archive.org/web/2015081...s-beats-music-said-to-raise-up-to-100-million


Donald’s wife, Melania Trump, in a movie about her life has partnered with none other than Jeff Bezos (who will fund it).
The “behind-the-scenes look” at Melania’s life is directed by Brett Ratner...

Earlier in 2025, Ratner visited Mar-a-Lago along with his associate, James Packer.
See Brett Ratner between Elon Musk and Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago in January 2025.

https://ronpaulforums.com/threads/b...-facebook-insider-trading.525818/post-7288277

 

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Kidada Jones was also in Las Vegas with Diddy’s “enemy”, her fiancé (?) rap star 2Pac in 1996 when he was shot to later die in hospital, but for some reason not with him in the car when he was shot. Quincy’s Swedish son, QD3, produced several songs for 2Pac.
Kidada Jones was also at the party in LA that was hosted by Quincy Jones’ Vibe magazine, that was the last party 2Pac’s rap star frenemy, the Notorious BIG, attended in 1997 before being likewise shot and dying in hospital.

Will Smith was transformed from a goofy rapper into a huge movie star by the Quincy Jones produced Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
Smith married 2Pac’s friend, Jada Pinkett, who was a drug dealer in the 1980s and starred in several movies in the 1990s.

Daz Dillinger (another rapper/producer associated with Dr. Dre and 2Pac) has claimed that in 1993, 22/23-year-old Jada Pinkett was “entangling” (as in having sex, if I understand correctly…) with 14/15-year-old Chris Kelly (best known as half of 1992 teenage rap sensation Kriss Kross) who died of another “accidental overdose” in 2013.

 

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Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised about Quincy Jones’ many connections to some of the biggest American celebrities, including Kennedy, Malcolm X, Spielberg, Oprah, Musk, Bezos and of course Trump.
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In 2010 Charlotte Lewis claimed that she had been raped in 1983 by the then 50-year-old Roman Polanski in Paris when she was only 16. I call “rape” in this situation exaggerated because she continued the affair (she wanted to be a movie star) until she was passed over to the next actor: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...harlotte-Lewis-claims-abused-director-16.html
Roman Polanski also had sex with the 15-year-old Nattassja Kinski in Paris

Quincy was also a friend of the vile paedophile Roman Polanski, with Quincy later marrying the actress Natassia Kinski (1992-1995), about whom Polanski boasted that he molested her when she was only 15…

Quincy even planned to go to the Polanski house the night his pregnant wife Sharon Tate, and the others present were slaughtered (Quincy was friends with all 5 of them).
“In early 1969, Steve McQueen called Jones and asked him to go and see a rough cut of Bullitt. Jones brought along his hairdresser, a man named Jay Sebring, and after the movie, they made plans for later that evening.
"He said, 'I'll meet you at Sharon's, because I've got some stuff for your hair,' " Jones remembers. "I was losing my hair." But Jones didn't go. "I forgot about it," he says.

The next morning his friend Bill Cosby (28) called from London. "He said, 'Man, did you hear about Jay?' Because we all used to hang out together. He said, 'Did you see that he's dead?' I said, 'Impossible, man, I was with him last night.'”

At the dinner party Jones had missed, at Sharon Tate's house, all five guests had been brutally murdered.”

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