OLD THREAD FROM MARCH:Two officers believed shot near Pentagon

[t0rnado]

This guy obviously wasn't an idiot, but I'm guessing he flipped out and decided to pop caps in some Pentagon cops.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This guy obviously wasn't an idiot, but I'm guessing he flipped out and decided to pop caps in some Pentagon cops.

The guy linked to at facebook and wiki is in CA.

I'll withold comment until it's confirmed it's the same guy.

 

[ResistTemptation]

There are no real details yet. He could have been robbed at gunpoint by some gov. thugs for all we know. He, if this is even the man who did "it," may have used justifiable force in this situation. Why do we argue at length about preserving our right to self defense but scoff at it every time it is actually used? It does not matter if the men who were shot were government employees, citizens, or even aliens. It only matters if the the kid used justifiable force. Unfortunately, justified self-defense against ANY gov. authority (read: jackboot) will mean immediately destruction of evidence absolving the convicted. Ironically, this kid believed we will never know what happened on 9/11; now, we will never know what REALLY happened to him.

 

[bill50]

why don't these people realize that their actions are counterproductive?

it's pretty fucking obvious...

Or were they set up and framed?

 

[phill4paul]

Selfishness. Not going to take it anymore. Probably figuring they'll finally set off the second American Revolution by their actions, or people will care about what they've left behind. They'll just be painted, rightly, as homicidal loons right beside McVeigh.

Then again perhaps he will be painted as a patriot that was one of the few that entered the public conscience as a "little league" player that created a revolution.

History sometimes recognizes "loons" as powder kegs. Doubt he'll be one.

 

[RM918]

Then again perhaps he will be painted as a patriot that was one of the few that entered the public conscience as a "little league" player that created a revolution.

History sometimes recognizes "loons" as powder kegs. Doubt he'll be one.

If what supposedly happened indeed happened, how is walking up to two Pentagon security guards and shooting them for no reason any kind of noble act? This isn't Lexington & Concorde.

 

[phill4paul]

If what supposedly happened indeed happened, how is walking up to two Pentagon security guards and shooting them for no reason any kind of noble act? This isn't Lexington & Concorde.

Are you so sure?

 

[RM918]

Are you so sure?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that trying to kill two guys just because you've demonized them in your head as avatars of government thuggery without considering that they're human beings just like you are, is absolutely no kind of noble act.

 

[phill4paul]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that trying to kill two guys just because you've demonized them in your head as avatars of government thuggery without considering that they're human beings just like you are, is absolutely no kind of noble act.

Perhaps "avatars of government thuggery" shouldn't be considered as human beings. Should I list the many that considered themselves human beings at the expense of humanity?
It all comes down to the the victors and how they re-invent history. We are all human beings. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Uriel999]

This guy lost his damned mind. Nuff said. The rEVOLution is a PEACEFUL one.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This guy lost his damned mind. Nuff said. The rEVOLution is a PEACEFUL one.

Why did he, and others, lose his mind?

Why will government respond with more heavy handed enforcement that will result in more losing of minds?

To dismiss it as just going nuts is as shallow an explanation as "they hate us for our freedoms".

 

[dannno]

This guy lost his damned mind. Nuff said.

That's the most presumptuous statement I've seen in this whole thread.

 

[phill4paul]

This guy lost his damned mind. Nuff said. The rEVOLution is a PEACEFUL one.

Uriel I don't deny that the rEVOLution is a peaceful one. However, don't believe for an instant that our rEVOLution is the only one that is going on. If only now on an individual measure.
I can't deny that with each and every police state brutality that I read of and hear of from those that I know that I lose a little bit of my mind.
I don't agree with this individuals measure any more than I do with the individual that flew the plane into the IRS building.
The truth is these things are gonna happen w/ more frequency. They may happen w/ such frequency that it does spark a movement.
It has happened before. It could happen again.
There is a point that you would consider a line. What if 99% of the population considered your line to be a fringe mindset?
Just sayin'.

 

[Rael]

What does this have to do with politics? Is it really necessary to politicize it every time some nut shoots somebody?

 

[dannno]

What does this have to do with politics? Is it really necessary to politicize it every time some nut shoots somebody?

Are you asking the forum or the media?

 

[Uriel999]

Why did he, and others, lose his mind?

Why will government respond with more heavy handed enforcement that will result in more losing of minds?

To dismiss it as just going nuts is as shallow an explanation as "they hate us for our freedoms".

Bullshit. Deciding your just going to shoot cops is not advantageous to advancing liberty. Nothing positive can happen in general from that. If you have a problem with government that is why the legal system exists. I'd give Joe Stack more legitimacy with his IRS building attack than this.

That's the most presumptuous statement I've seen in this whole thread.

Is it now? So if you went out tomorrow and a cop pulled up beside you at a stop light and you pulled out a gun and popped the mofo in the face that is somehow not nutty but perhaps even revolutionary?

Uriel I don't deny that the rEVOLution is a peaceful one. However, don't believe for an instant that our rEVOLution is the only one that is going on. If only now on an individual measure.
I can't deny that with each and every police state brutality that I read of and hear of from those that I know that I lose a little bit of my mind.
I don't agree with this individuals measure any more than I do with the individual that flew the plane into the IRS building.
The truth is these things are gonna happen w/ more frequency. They may happen w/ such frequency that it does spark a movement.
It has happened before. It could happen again.
There is a point that you would consider a line. What if 99% of the population considered your line to be a fringe mindset?
Just sayin'.

Your right a movement will be sparked. A movement of government to start Marshall Law. This won't help anybody.

 

[phill4paul]

Your right a movement will be sparked. A movement of government to start Marshall Law. This won't help anybody.

Are you so sure?

 

[dannno]

Is it now? So if you went out tomorrow and a cop pulled up beside you at a stop light and you pulled out a gun and popped the mofo in the face that is somehow not nutty but perhaps even revolutionary?

No, I'm saying that we don't know what really happened.

 

[Uriel999]

Are you so sure?

goddamn, I think the only thing I am sure of right now is that youtube video at the bottom of the page is pissing me off.... a lot.

Anyways, back on subject. The feds are just looking for any excuses to take what is left of our liberty. No reason to give them excuses. We need people to wake up, not to fly planes into IRS buildings or shoot cops but rather to fight in politics.

 

[Uriel999]

No, I'm saying that we don't know what really happened.

more will be found out as time goes on, but chances are something non-kosher went down. I'm betting...fuck stop the youtube josh! sorry, I'm still betting on man lost his mind.