OLD THREAD FROM MARCH:Two officers believed shot near Pentagon

Uriel999 said:
goddamn, I think the only thing I am sure of right now is that youtube video at the bottom of the page is pissing me off.... a lot.
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LOL.

Uriel999 said:
Anyways, back on subject. The feds are just looking for any excuses to take what is left of our liberty. No reason to give them excuses. We need people to wake up, not to fly planes into IRS buildings or shoot cops but rather to fight in politics.
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I do not disagree with you Uriel. However, you and I and those in the rEVOLution do not call the shots. The people do. These tiny isolated incidents could very well spark a rEVILution. It has happened before and I believe is on the verge of happening again.
rEVOLution>rEVILution. But, one way or the other there will be a change.
 
Before it disappears from media reports....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_pentagon_metro_shooting

Law enforcement officials identified the suspect as John Patrick Bedell, 36. They also said they were speaking with a second man, who might have accompanied the shooter, and were running his name through databases.
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Another mysterious "second person" that is not identified. I'm seeing a pattern here. There was an unidentified second person during the initial Fort Hood shooting reports and an unidentified second person during the underwear bomber reports.
 
It's becoming really easy to predict. Something happens, and certain people ignore what does come to light to create their own version.

From there, now that the media sketch of he guy has come out, people simultaneously say that the media is smearing Truthers and Libertarians and pot smokers and this guy probably isn't any of those, but some of the "Truther pot-smoking Libertarians" on the internet are rushing to the guy's defense and saying maybe this isn't a big deal, or might be the first shot of the new revolution! (What happened to the IRS plane thing being the first shot? Awful memory, I guess.) He couldn't be someone from this board, even though some people on this board seem to think that if he DID do it it'd be awesome.

If they didn't question anyone else, it would be an obvious setup. If they question someone else, it's obviously a setup.

I would happily agree that we need more facts to come out before anything's certain, but I also know from past experience that the "facts" will likely be questioned, suspect, and dismissed by some no matter what.
 
Anti Federalist said:
The guy linked to at facebook and wiki is in CA.

I'll withold comment until it's confirmed it's the same guy.
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I just heard on the radio that the shooter had driven across country from California. That said it's way to early to know what to think about this. (*cough* MKULTRA *cough*)
 
MelissaWV said:
From there, now that the media sketch of he guy has come out, people simultaneously say that the media is smearing Truthers and Libertarians and pot smokers and this guy probably isn't any of those, but some of the "Truther pot-smoking Libertarians" on the internet are rushing to the guy's defense and saying maybe this isn't a big deal, or might be the first shot of the new revolution! (What happened to the IRS plane thing being the first shot? Awful memory, I guess.) He couldn't be someone from this board, even though some people on this board seem to think that if he DID do it it'd be awesome.
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No disagreement except to say that there's a fine line between understanding motive and endorsing action. During the "Stack debates" I got attacked by both sides. Such is life.

I would happily agree that we need more facts to come out before anything's certain, but I also know from past experience that the "facts" will likely be questioned, suspect, and dismissed by some no matter what.
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Or (as in the case of the IRS suicide pilot) people will look at other facts that come out that raise questions. (Stack's connection to defense contractors. Firefighters and hazmat on the scene before the attack. Mainstream media reports of hazmat there after the attack followed by denials from the government of any hazardous materials on site etc.)

YouTube - Eye-witness to Austin IRS plane crash says firefighters and HAZMAT were ACROSS STREET during attack

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587684,00.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35650018/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Maybe rather than "dismissing facts" that support the official story, people aren't filtering out facts that don't support it?
 
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Just seems odd to me that he'd go to all this trouble on what seems an obvious suicide mission, and leave no "manifesto" or at least a rant, as Stack allegedly did.
 
RM918 said:
Selfishness. Not going to take it anymore. Probably figuring they'll finally set off the second American Revolution by their actions, or people will care about what they've left behind. They'll just be painted, rightly, as homicidal loons right beside McVeigh.
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Stop right there.

What of the other (witness identified) people involved in OKC? The ones that weren't arrested?
The ones that masterminded?.
The ones that planted explosives inside the building?

That whole story is still being passed off as something like the truth and the name McVeigh is brought up constantly.
McVeigh Was a Government operative. Period.....
 
Anti Federalist said:
I disagree.

Make the tyrants act like tyrants.

Then we'll see what happens next.
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Sooner the better in my opinion. The longer we wait, the worse it will be. Every year that goes buy the police get more federalized, more draconian laws get passed, and more police grid gets up. Everyday that goes by makes it harder to survive what we all know is coming. We are waking people up, but not as fast as they are building a tyrannical grid.

Either wait 100 years till I'm long dead and gone, or get it over with now.
 
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