Ok Christian Church, what gave us the right to go to war?

[torchbearer]

This is like saying a Buddhist can also be a Christian. These are two different religions. When the first Christians became Christian, they stopped being Jewish.

No- Jews and Christians worship the same God. you can be both.
Your analogy is not analogous to this topic.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Paul was just the Roman marketing guy.

 

[Dr.3D]

See- you have this perverse modern christian thing going on where they have began to worship Jesus.. and not so much god or holy spirit.
The apostles followed jesus, they didn't worship him.

Said by Thomas to Jesus.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

 

[torchbearer]

Paul was just the Roman marketing guy.

He was actually a zealot Jew before his conversion. This is why he often taught how women should be subservient in society. "and this is the word of the lord"? I don't think so.
It was Paul taking his zealot jewish beliefs on the road.

 

[torchbearer]

Said by Thomas to Jesus.

Jesus is not your god. You should have 3 gods.

 

[Truth Warrior]

This is like saying a Buddhist can also be a Christian. These are two different religions. When the first Christians became Christian, they stopped being Jewish.

No competing deity in Buddhism.

 

[Dr.3D]

He was actually a zealot Jew before his conversion. This is why he often taught how women should be subservient in society. "and this is the word of the lord"? I don't think so.
It was Paul taking his zealot jewish beliefs on the road.

If you will notice, most of the new testament is composed of books written by Paul.
Should we remove all of those books?

 

[Dr.3D]

Jesus is not your god. You should have 3 gods.

The entire idea of a Trinity is not in the Bible.

 

[Truth Warrior]

He was actually a zealot Jew before his conversion. This is why he often taught how women should be subservient in society. "and this is the word of the lord"? I don't think so.
It was Paul taking his zealot jewish beliefs on the road.

Me neither.

 

[Dr.3D]

Saying the Holy Spirit is a different person than God is like saying my soul is different person than me.

 

[torchbearer]

The entire idea of a Trinity is not in the Bible.

But it is taught as christian tradition in many churches.
Especially the original christian church.

 

[torchbearer]

But it is taught as christian tradition in many churches.
Especially the original christian church.

Apostle's creed:

1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:

2. And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:

3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:

4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:

5. The third day he rose again from the dead:

6. He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:

7. From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:

8. I believe in the Holy Ghost:

9. I believe in the holy catholic church: the communion of saints:

10. The forgiveness of sins:

1l. The resurrection of the body:

12. And the life everlasting. Amen.

 

[Dr.3D]

But it is taught as christian tradition in many churches.
Especially the original christian church.

Don't try to tell me the original Christian church taught any such thing.
The Roman Catholic Church is in no way the original Christian church.

 

[Truth Warrior]

If you will notice, most of the new testament is composed of books written by Paul.
Should we remove all of those books?

The marketing manual has been refined, tested and proved for millenia now. Better to not mess with a successful campaign.

 

[torchbearer]

Don't try to tell me the original Christian church taught any such thing.
The Roman Catholic Church is in no way the original Christian church.

what happened to the original christian church? it disappeared for 2000 years and just popped up with your church? or did it revive with the reformation?
what form of redacted bible do you worship?

 

[Dr.3D]

Apostle's creed:

Look who wrote that stuff.

 

[Dr.3D]

what happened to the original christian church? it disappeared for 2000 years and just popped up with your church? or did it revive with the reformation?
what form of redacted bible do you worship?

The Roman Catholic Church came into existence in the fourth century. I am talking about the early church before the fourth century. You know, the ones the Church of Rome tried to kill off?

Edit: And I in no way worship the Bible.

 

[torchbearer]

If you will notice, most of the new testament is composed of books written by Paul.
Should we remove all of those books?

Those letters should have gone with the people who they were written for...
Like most things in that book, they were a reflection of man's perception of the world and its god at that time.
this view constantly changes and that is why you can't fathom a christian being a jew, when there was a time that they early christians couldn't imagine any christian not being a jew.
in fact, their were fights over this... should all christians be circumcised? where did that come from??? oh yeah- jewish tradition.

 

[torchbearer]

The Roman Catholic Church came into existence in the fourth century. I am talking about the early church before the fourth century. You know, the ones the Church of Rome tried to kill off?

Tried? If that church didn't become the roman church... and your bible is built off of the roman church in nicea.. then you are following the wrong religion.
The religion you seek was killed by the romans.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I've read some good things about the Cathars, until the Pope's army annihilated them that is.