OH - Haitian migrants eating cats?

[Swordsmyth]

You just used "unamerican" as an adjective again. I thought the Klan had turned that into a noun, the same way progs do when they want to divide people for the conquerors.

HUAC did nothing wrong.

 

[TheCount]

And if it were up to me to prove that I didn't enter the country illegally, so as not to be punished for entering the country illegally, then logically it would have to be required for all of us to provide that preemptive proof, not just the guilty people.

Do you have a different view of due process than that?

Do you think that we are all obligated to prove that they never entered the county illegally in order not to be punished for doing so (e.g. by being prohibited from exercising our right to keep and bear arms)?

SS thinks that you should need papers to travel from state to state.

It goes without saying that you'd need to produce your Ahnenpass on demand in his America.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

No. And if I had entered the country illegally, I would give the same answer.

My view of due process is that if you want to punish me for entering the country illegally, you first have to prove I did that. It's not up to me to prove that I didn't as a prerequisite for exercising my rights as a person who is innocent of that crime.

And if it were up to me to prove that I didn't enter the country illegally, so as not to be punished for entering the country illegally, then logically it would have to be required for all of us to provide that preemptive proof, not just the guilty people.

Do you have a different view of due process than that?

Do you think that we are all obligated to prove that they never entered the county illegally in order not to be punished for doing so (e.g. by being prohibited from exercising our right to keep and bear arms)?

Very good points.
Suppose you were born down the street and the offspring of 2 legal Americans. Suppose you just happen to look like an illegal invader and get picked up.
With that said, I would imagine that the legal that got picked up would willfully prove they are legal. That probably has happened all the time for many years and many crimes. So that is probably why innocent people prove their innocence.
Why does a suspect need an alibi? WTF? It is not the suspects job to do police work. If they have to prove you did a crime, why do you need to have an alibi?

 

[Invisible Man]

With that said, I would imagine that the legal that got picked up would willfully prove they are legal.

First, prove how?

Second, they shouldn't have to.

Third, and if they don't prove their innocence, whether because they can't or won't, the burden of proof is still on those wishing to charge them with a crime to prove their guilt, not on them to prove their innocence. This is due process.

 

[jmdrake]

They made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Not the reporter.

If you watched the entire video you know the black man in the Cincinatti baseball cap never made the "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" claim Trump made. He talked about geese. The only 911 recording I've heard played was talking about geese. But "cats and dogs" have far more of an emotional pull because most people in the U.S. are at least on board with the concept of eating water fowl even if they don't do so themselves. Also note that he, like the white welfare recipient Trump suppoters in the other video, was also complaining about Haitians being in the front of the welfare line. So again it's really about traffic safety (understandable) and competition for welfare dollars. Even the jobs issue is secondary because the Haitians didn't take anybody's job. The took the new jobs created when the factories realized they could take advantage of a new influx of hardworking, not on drugs, get to work on time labor force. Which means Trump was correct when he talked about immigrants taking "black jobs" only it would have been more accurate to say "They're taking away working poor jobs, be the workers black, white, hispanic or other." But that would mean admitting there is a poverty problem in white rust belt communities.

 

[jmdrake]

Very good points.
Suppose you were born down the street and the offspring of 2 legal Americans. Suppose you just happen to look like an illegal invader and get picked up.
With that said, I would imagine that the legal that got picked up would willfully prove they are legal. That probably has happened all the time for many years and many crimes. So that is probably why innocent people prove their innocence.
Why does a suspect need an alibi? WTF? It is not the suspects job to do police work. If they have to prove you did a crime, why do you need to have an alibi?

First, prove how?

Second, they shouldn't have to.

Third, and if they don't prove their innocence, whether because they can't or won't, the burden of proof is still on those wishing to charge them with a crime to prove their guilt, not on them to prove their innocence. This is due process.

The funny thing is none of these Springfield Haitians are in the country illegally. Trump said repeatedly that he wanted more immigration but wanted there to be a "process." Okay. They followed the "process" to get here. And yes, I get it. It was a huge influx and a lot ended up in one city. Until the foreign policy issue is addressed, mass migration will continue. Even if the welfare state was completely abolished, people would still run from their lives from U.S. created instability.

 

[Invisible Man]

If you watched the entire video you know the black man in the Cincinatti baseball cap never made the "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" claim Trump made. He talked about geese.

I'm on the same side as you here. But I think the more important sentence Trump said was the third one, "They're eating the pets of the people that live there."

There's a big difference between just eating feral cats or dogs (to say nothing of geese), and stealing and killing someone else's pet, whether to eat it or not.

But the xenophones want to mix all these together, accuse "them" of all of the above, and then only focus on anecdotal evidence of the victimless parts.

It's like saying, "Swordsmyth jaywalked and murdered his parents! And I can prove it because I heard a guy on TV say he saw him jaywalk!"

And then, of course, the whole problem of just lumping people together and saying "they" are doing something that only certain individuals could potentially have done, is another obvious logical and moral problem.

 

[Invisible Man]

Even if the welfare state was completely abolished, people would still run from their lives from U.S. created instability.

And if welfare is the excuse of the xenophobes, then they ought to hold up people who eat feral cats as a laudable example for American welfare recipients to follow.

 

[TheCount]

And if welfare is the excuse of the xenophobes, then they ought to hold up people who eat feral cats as a laudable example for American welfare recipients to follow.

It's environmentally friendly as well, as feral cats kill tons of local wildlife.

Really there's something for everyone in cat-eating.

 

[dannno]

It's environmentally friendly as well, as feral cats kill tons of local wildlife.

Really there's something for everyone in cat-eating.

Why yes, anybody who doesn't support eating cats is certainly a white supremacist.

 

[Invisible Man]

Why yes, anybody who doesn't support eating cats is certainly a white supremacist.

Do you have a better explanation?

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1838419979374362695

 

[Valli6]

...and so...?

So what are they marching for? Do they live in Springfield?
When did this march occur?
Do they support eating pets? Are they against eating pets?
Are they against importing large numbers of haitians or do they want more haitians around?
Do they approve of practicing voodoo?
What is their interest in Springfield Ohio?
What do they want? What's their point? What's your point?

Without any facts videos like this just equal gibberish.
Why post stuff like this with zero context?

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1838419979374362695

 

[Anti Federalist]

So what are they marching for? Do they live in Springfield?
When did this march occur?
Do they support eating pets? Are they against eating pets?
Are they against importing large numbers of haitians or do they want more haitians around?
Do they approve of practicing voodoo?
What is their interest in Springfield Ohio?
What do they want? What's their point? What's your point?

Without any facts videos like this just equal gibberish.
Why post stuff like this with zero context?

If I had a point on this I would have made it.

If I had answers to any of those questions, I would have posted them as well, because they were the exact same questions I had.

I posted it because I thought it...odd...and would like to find the answers.

Why do you have a problem with that?

That's what a forum like this is supposed to be about.

 

[Invisible Man]

So what are they marching for? Do they live in Springfield?
When did this march occur?
Do they support eating pets? Are they against eating pets?
Are they against importing large numbers of haitians or do they want more haitians around?
Do they approve of practicing voodoo?
What is their interest in Springfield Ohio?
What do they want? What's their point? What's your point?

Without any facts videos like this just equal gibberish.
Why post stuff like this with zero context?

If I had a point on this I would have made it.

If I had answers to any of those questions, I would have posted them as well, because they were the exact same questions I had.

I posted it because I thought it...odd...and would like to find the answers.

Why do you have a problem with that?

That's what a forum like this is supposed to be about.

Suffice it to say, whether these events be linked or not, white genocide is happening before our eyes in Springfield.

There are Haitians eating geese (i.e. committing white genocide).

And there are black supremacists exercising freedom of speech (i.e. committing white genocide).

If this is a pure coincidence, and two different white genocide movements are conquering the same place simultaneously and independently, does that really make it better?

What's next? Miscegenation?!!

 

[unknown]

Cat eating thread has 600 replies, lol.

 

[Intrepid]

Do what you want with my dogs and cats, but if you eat my bugs we're going to fist city.

 

[jmdrake]

https://x.com/NatCon2022/status/1838419979374362695

Is it really "black supremacy" to say black people are the real Jews? (And I'm pretty sure BHI's consider themselves Hebews and not "Jews"). Anyhow, this group turned this man:



into this man:

 

[Valli6]

Cat eating thread has 600 replies, lol.

Yeah, but about 2/3s of the posts have nothing to do with whether pet-eating is actually taking place there or not. The town's leadership can hardly be trusted with their denials - considering they've covertly encouraged an influx of 20 to 30 thousand foreigners without the approval of the people who already live there... and gain nothing from the whole mess but the shit end of the stick.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is it really "black supremacy" to say black people are the real Jews? (And I'm pretty sure BHI's consider themselves Hebews and not "Jews"). Anyhow, this group turned this man:



into this man:

I have no opinion on them one way or the other.

I'm just curious what they are all about.

But if a bunch of white people marched around claiming they were the chosen ones of God, you can damn well be sure they would be called "supremacists".