**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

dannno said:
I'm pretty sure your first statement is incorrect - he was merely a volunteer, he wasn't actually on duty. But that isn't entirely relevant to the situation.

As for your second statement, what we need is PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman because Zimmerman is the one on trial. We need proof beyond a reasonable doubt that what he is saying is incorrect. Right now all we have to go off of is the witness who saw Trayvon pounding Zimmerman's head into the pavement while Zimmerman yelled for help. That goes right along with his story.
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This goes along with Zimmerman's story too.

Picture Of George Zimmerman's Head Three Minutes After He Shot Trayvon Martin

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ABC News
 
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dannno said:
I'm pretty sure your first statement is incorrect - he was merely a volunteer, he wasn't actually on duty. But that isn't entirely relevant to the situation.

As for your second statement, what we need is PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman because Zimmerman is the one on trial. We need proof beyond a reasonable doubt that what he is saying is incorrect. Right now all we have to go off of is the witness who saw Trayvon pounding Zimmerman's head into the pavement while Zimmerman yelled for help. That goes right along with his story.
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Bond hearing for George Zimmerman set for April 20

Published April 13, 2012

| FoxNews.com

A bond hearing for George Zimmerman has been scheduled for April 20 at 9:00 a.m., Fox News has learned.

Zimmerman is currently being held without bond on a second-degree murder charge over the death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, had previously declared he would seek Zimmerman's release on bond Thursday, but he told reporters he had changed his mind because it "might only increase the fervor" surrounding the case. The shooting has sparked emotional protests about perceived racial injustice.

Zimmerman, 28, has admitted to shooting the unarmed 17-year-old Martin but said he was acting in self-defense. He said the teen attacked him while he was serving his role as neighborhood watchman on Feb. 26 in Sanford, an Orlando suburb.

He was officially charged with second-degree murder in the high-profile case Wednesday.

Newscore contributed to this report.
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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/13...#ixzz1rwiN59xi
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No witness saw Z's head being pounded into the pavement- that again is Z's story.

As for the marks on his head, there is also some speculation as to why the blood wasn't flowing up, as well as down, if the head had been pounded on the sidewalk.

What is needed is a release on the autopsy of Martin- as of now, everything is speculation.
 
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Poll: Attention Media and GOP: "No one but Paul" POLL ADDED
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**Official** Trayvon Martin thread
Started by Anti Federalist‎, 03-24-2012

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George Zimmerman gets MUCH more Press than Ron Paul. Shocker.

Vote Fraud is not in "The News" AT. ALL.
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**Official** Trayvon Martin thread
Started by Anti Federalist‎, 03-24-2012

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Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman are PULLING FURTHER AHEAD of Ron Paul, and Trayvon Martin is DEAD.

Vote Fraud STILL not in the News.

The "important lead" on the boy who has been dead for over 30 years turned out to be a non-starter.
 
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RickyJ said:
Tell that to the media! They are the ones that turned this into a racial thing, it certainly wouldn't have been that way any other way.
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The media created it but who let it grow?

I also thought most people here agreed to stop watching MSM.
 
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Records detail George Zimmerman's medical injuries

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/records-detail-george-zimmermans-medical-injuries/nN7Dh/

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —

Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

ABC News reports the medical records were part of evidence released on Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. He has entered a plea of not guilty and claims self-defense in the Feb. 26 shooting.

A message left Tuesday evening with Zimmerman's attorney was not immediately returned.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said the new information helps Zimmerman more than state prosecutors.

"It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beat up by Trayvon Martin," said Sheaffer.

According to an autopsy report, the only other injury Martin had aside from the fatal gunshot wound was broken skin on his knuckles.

That also could play into Zimmerman's story that Martin punched him in the nose and then slammed his head on the sidewalk.

But Sheaffer said there could be another explanation for Martin's injury.

"It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself," Sheaffer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed the unarmed teenager almost three months ago after calling 911 to report that Martin was acting suspiciously.

Zimmerman said Martin threw the first punch and that he opened fire in self-defense after his screams for help went unanswered.

The FBI was not able to determine whether it was Zimmerman or Martin who could be heard crying out for help in 911 calls.
 
So the Aryan Brotherhood neighborhood watch guy tortured little Trayvon by splitting open Trayvon's knuckles with his face and then shot our favorite Skittles icon?

Hang him high! We don't need scum like that prowling our peaceful communities.
 
Injuries indicate he was involved in an altercation. They do not show if he was defending himself or if Travon was defending himself. It was afterall Zimmerman who persued Travon who was walking away from him. Trayvon may have been trying to get Zimmerman off of him and acting in self defense himself.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...in-injuries-knuckles-report-article-1.1079190
“It goes along with Zimmerman’s story that he acted in self-defense because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer acknowledged, however, that the injuries could have been a result of Trayvon trying to defend himself.

“It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself,” Sheaffer said.

The details of Trayvon’s hand wounds came amid reports that Zimmerman suffered several injuries to his face and neck during the struggle.
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Picture yourself on your back and a big guy sitting on you and you are puching at him to try to get him off of you. Or that Trayvon was sitting on top of Zimmerman and pummeling him. It could be either way. Why did the fight start? That is crucial. In my opinion if you are chasing after somebody who has done nothing to you and was merely walking by and you chase after them, then you are the agressor and responsible for any resulting confrontation.
 
Witness Told Cops He Saw Trayvon Martin Straddling George Zimmerman And Punching Him "MMA Style"
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903
A witness told Florida cops that he saw Trayvon Martin straddling George Zimmerman and pummeling the neighborhood watch captain “MMA style” shortly before the unarmed teen was felled by a gunshot to the chest.

The witness’s account was included in Sanford Police Department reports released today. Interviewed by cops about 90 minutes after the shooting.....

The man recalled seeing “a black male, wearing a dark colored ‘hoodie’ on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.” The black male, he added, “was mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches ‘MMA (mixed martial arts) style.'”

The witness--who was in his living room and about 30 feet away from the confrontation-- said he called out to the two men that he was dialing 911. “He then heard a ‘pop,’” police reported, and saw the black male “laid out on the grass.”
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Zippyjuan said:
Injuries indicate he was involved in an altercation. They do not show if he was defending himself or if Travon was defending himself. It was afterall Zimmerman who persued Travon who was walking away from him. Trayvon may have been trying to get Zimmerman off of him and acting in self defense himself.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...in-injuries-knuckles-report-article-1.1079190


Picture yourself on your back and a big guy sitting on you and you are puching at him to try to get him off of you. Or that Trayvon was sitting on top of Zimmerman and pummeling him. It could be either way. Why did the fight start? That is crucial. In my opinion if you are chasing after somebody who has done nothing to you and was merely walking by and you chase after them, then you are the agressor and responsible for any resulting confrontation.
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There is no proof that Zimmerman was "chasing" after anybody. He was out of his car looking around for the highly suspicious Trayvon to make sure he wasn't committing a crime when Trayvon came up behind him and apparently started the altercation.
 
Yeah. We failed to get indefinite detention repealed but we can talk about Trayvon again. Just one question. How did Zimmerman get to his gun without getting Trayvon off of him first? Supposedly Trayvon was "sitting on his arms". Kind of hard to reach your gun from that position no? Oh yeah, and why does "Stand your ground" include following someone even though you've been advised that that might not be a good idea[1] but going back from your garage into your own house and scaring a brutalizing attacker with a warning shot not standing your ground? Do the PTB prefer that we actually kill each other? (Rhetorical question of course).


[1] And to the "purists", I know what the 911 tape actually said which was "We don't need you to do that", but anyone with half a brain knows the thought behind that was "That's not really a good idea".
 
dannno said:
There is no proof that Zimmerman was "chasing" after anybody. He was out of his car looking around for the highly suspicious Trayvon to make sure he wasn't committing a crime when Trayvon came up behind him and apparently started the altercation.
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Yeah that's Zimmerman's side. Trayvon's GF's story is totally different. But son of a state Supreme Court Justice, neighborhood watch block captain, MMA built Zimmerman must be the one telling the truth. You seem convinced anyway.
 
jmdrake said:
Yeah. We failed to get indefinite detention repealed but we can talk about Trayvon again. Just one question. How did Zimmerman get to his gun without getting Trayvon off of him first? Supposedly Trayvon was "sitting on his arms". Kind of hard to reach your gun from that position no? Oh yeah, and why does "Stand your ground" include following someone even though you've been advised that that might not be a good idea[1] but going back from your garage into your own house and scaring a brutalizing attacker with a warning shot not standing your ground? Do the PTB prefer that we actually kill each other? (Rhetorical question of course).
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Uh, wasn't it just last week that there was a thread about someone getting sentenced to prison for firing a warning shot?
 
dannno said:
There is no proof that Zimmerman was "chasing" after anybody. He was out of his car looking around for the highly suspicious Trayvon to make sure he wasn't committing a crime when Trayvon came up behind him and apparently started the altercation.
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In his 911 call Zimmerman sounded like he was breathing heavily and the Stanford Police asked him if he was going after the boy who he said was running away and he said yes- so he himself said he was going after Trayvon. They told him not to. Trayvon's body was nowhere near Zimmerman's car so it would have been impossible for him to have jumped Zimmerman there and got shot. He describes Trayvon as "walking about".

 
Is everyone here seriously giving this story the attention the media wants it to have? People are killed everyday, often times by cops, for no crime whatsoever. Why are we giving this story the same attention the media is? It's clear that this story is being blown up for one purpose; to cause racial tension between the people. An obvious method of divide and conquer, yet so many people are spending their resources trying to get to the bottom of something that, even if we found the true answers, justice wouldn't be served simply because our judicial system is flawed and the media / government has a lot going into this specific incident.
 
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