**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[coastie]

If Zimmerman was attacked from behind, and was getting pummeled....he had a right to defend himself. But I think manslaughter, rather than murder, would be an appropriate charge, because he stalked and provoked this encounter.

...which is against Florida Law, and why I think bare minimum should be his charge.

 

[AuH20]

If Zimmerman was attacked from behind, and was getting pummeled....he had a right to defend himself. But I think manslaughter, rather than murder, would be an appropriate charge, because he stalked and provoked this encounter.

That's my line of thinking as well. This looks like a manslaughter charge from the details I gleaned from the case report.

 

[Stupified]

If any stanger ever talks to my kids...they should whoop their ass...

Remind me not to ask your kids for direction or something.


Fuck this way of thinking.

Per the Supreme Court, the Police are not responsible for the physical welfare of the mundane class. So whatever they say doesn't carry much weight in terms of threat assessment and crime prevention.

I know, that's why I said "lol" in parentheses. But still, going by the legal order of things, Zimmerman should have stayed in the car.

 

[eduardo89]

If Zimmerman was attacked from behind, and was getting pummeled....he had a right to defend himself. But I think manslaughter, rather than murder, would be an appropriate charge, because he stalked and provoked this encounter.

If he was being attacked he had every right to defend himself by any and every means possible.

It's ridiculous that if someone enters your house unarmed and does not even attack you, you can shoot them dead, but if you are being attacked in the street you can't use deadly force if you are being attacked.

 

[azxd]

I don't need government to protect me any more than I need ThreeJoeGlass to protect my neighborhood. My argument is consistent - I can defend myself, and I don't need anybody else roaming the streets in the name of their definition of some public good.

Especially when they're absolutely abconvinced they have the right to track down and kill kids who don't trust strangers.

GOOD ... Now explain why he is scary to you, because I'm not buying what you're writing, thus far.

 

[coastie]

Per the Supreme Court, the Police are not responsible for the physical welfare of the mundane class. So whatever they say doesn't carry much weight in terms of threat assessment and crime prevention.

Seemed like a LOGICAL response to me in this situation, never mind what ended up happening specifically because of him not heeding this correct assessment though, right?

 

[TheeJoeGlass]

lol, guess you don't like the idea of somebody hurting your kids eh? better tell them never to run, otherwise somebody is within their rights to kill them -- at least according to you.

If my son attacks a man, he knows that the consequences can be unpredictable. How about you stop talking about my children just because you and the other clown are getting owned by logic, reason, and eye withness testimony.

 

[moo]

Assumptions are stupid things to make ... Read the report

a thorough investigation wasn't conducted that night.

 

[azxd]

One of the main witnesses stated that Zimmerman was attacked on the way back to his car. Take that for what it's worth.

Doing that blows the bias out of the water ... It must be rejected !!!

 

[coastie]

Doing that blows the bias out of the water ... It must be rejected !!!

Well, being that he never should've exited his car, er wait.....doing that blows the bias out of the water, now doesn't it?

 

[azxd]

Bannable offense. Mods?

IMO, only if the other party is also banned ... The comment you quote would not be there, if not for the other party.

 

[TheeJoeGlass]

a thorough investigation wasn't conducted that night.

And you know that based on what Moo? Anderson Cooper? Nancy Grace? Obama?

 

[specsaregood]

If my son attacks a man, he knows that the consequences can be unpredictable. How about you stop talking about my children just because you and the other clown are getting owned by logic, reason, and eye withness testimony.

You aren't owning anything. You are one sick puppy. I brought up your kids; because it is a fair point to ask you how you would feel if you were the victim's parents. This kid was violating no laws or harming any others when it began and ended up dead. The kid tried to flee the presense of somebody he obviously thought was threatening. You aren't that kid, you weren't in his position so you don't know. I think the kid was within his rights to try to flee the situation. You think the killer was in his right to "hunt" the kid down. We just disagree.

 

[AuH20]

Doing that blows the bias out of the water ... It must be rejected !!!

Well, it's obvious even to the untrained eye that Travon was far from the likeable saint portrayed by the MSM and Zimmerman was not a racially motivated monster sans the white hood. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I bet that Martin escalated the situation after he was accosted by Zimmerman, and then all hell broke lose, ultimately with Zimmerman foolishly shooting him in the chest at close range.

 

[azxd]

Not worth shit-he never should've exited his car. Follow along here...

Why ?

If part of his blockwatch duty is to check signs for whatever reason, it's part of his volunteer duty.

Follow along here.....................................

 

[coastie]

IMO, only if the other party is also banned ... The comment you quote would not be there, if not for the other party.

Did some stupid bomb blow up on your head recently? That comment was uncalled for regardless of what was said.

I'm really beginning to think you are 13 years old, because that's the logic mine tries to use on me sometimes.

 

[Stupified]

And you know that based on what Moo? Anderson Cooper? Nancy Grace? Obama?

Any investigation of a death that does not include a toxicology test of the killer is not thorough. Instead they did one on the victim, so if he had weed in his system or something they could plaster that all over the report.

 

[angelatc]

Why not? If he's tasked with looking out for his neighbourhood and he sees a suspicious unknown kid walking around, asks the kid what he's up to and the kid runs...why would he search for the kid and find out what he's up to?

He's not "tasked" with it. He and he alone has decided that is his role.

 

[TheeJoeGlass]

You aren't owning anything. You are one sick puppy. I brought up your kids; because it is a fair point to ask you how you would feel if you were the victim's parents. This kid was violating no laws or harming any others when it began and ended up dead. The kid tried to flee the presense of somebody he obviously thought was threatening. You aren't that kid, you weren't in his position so you don't know. I think the kid was within his rights to try to flea the situation. You think the killer was in his right to "hunt" the kid down. We just disagree.

I'm the sick puppy, your the one talking about murdering my children. How about you fucking apoligize or leave it alone. Eitherway, I don't give a shit. Was George Zimmerman acting in self defense or racist anger, that is the point of this thread and I attacked nobody in this thread, only offered my opinion and backed that up with logic, reason, and fact. You asked a hypothetical question about murdering my three children. Hmmm.

 

[coastie]

Why ?

If part of his blockwatch duty is to check signs for whatever reason, it's part of his volunteer duty.

Follow along here.....................................

That doesn't carry any weight whatsoever w/ regard to Florida CCW law, which is what this man clearly broke. FOLLOW ALONG