**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[Bruno]

That's what it sounds like.

Then you missed the point, or are pretending that you did. Rereading will solve the former, the latter would be up to you.

 

[asurfaholic]

Not sick enough of it to label Martin a "newcomer drug dealer" and once again perpetuate the meme (made up by people who weren't there) that he attacked first.

Interesting gymnastics you go through in a single post.

I was just using that as an example of how a simple change in headline could change the entire focus of the story. I knew I shoulda stayed out of this thread.... and the other 6 trayvon martian threads...

I do not know what went down. I DO know that the media is blowing this up. The other day in my town a group of 4 black dudes broke into a white mans house and shot him dead, then robbed the place. What, didn't hear about it? Neither did I until I talked to someone who was there...

 

[Toureg89]

I guess I'm the only one who really doesn't give a shit about this case.

i give a shit to the extent that people crying racist also seem to want to get rid of our Stand-Your-Ground law to try to nanny-police future incidents of racist whites shooting blacks.

whether or not Zimmerman is guilty or Trayvon instigated it, i dont care to the because i feel its something to be worked out between Zimmerman and the boys parents through the courts.

 

[lester1/2jr]

Trayvon Martin was visiting family in the neighborhood. No one disputes that. Zimmerman had no reason to be following him at all.

 

[lester1/2jr]

dillo-

ironic people supporting lynch mobs with shotty information and no trial

so you admit Zimmerman essentially lynched Martin with shitty information and no trial.

 

[moderate libertarian]

Is this a new angle or already known tidbit:

Who is George Zimmerman - the frustrated cop wannabe in the eye of a race storm?
Sydney Morning Herald - ‎15 hours ago‎

http://m.smh.com.au/world/who-is-george-zimmerman-20120325-1vs1a.html

 

[Cowlesy]

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer

Geez, the media really seems to be playing a weird game with this story.

 

[specsaregood]

Geez, the media really seems to be playing a weird game with this story.

Judging based on the deluge of threads here on the "story", they are getting just what they wanted: attention and eyeballs.

 

[Cowlesy]

I believe the media is pushing this to create more racial tension.

I think you are right, and I find it to be disgusting.

What are they going to do when one of the black panther clowns loses it to get "revenge"? Instead of outrage, the media will shrug and say "well this is the price we gotta pay."

 

[Cowlesy]

Judging based on the deluge of threads here on the "story", they are getting just what they wanted: attention and eyeballs.

The whole thing vexes me, as there are tragedies every damn day where there is injustice (or perceived injustice), and now all of a sudden we've been in national mourning for over a week with about 60% of the facts.

 

[pcosmar]

I do not know what went down. I DO know that the media is blowing this up.

I am pretty sure that an armed man shot and killed an unarmed man.
I am pretty sure that the unarmed man had every right to be there and no reason to be accosted by the armed man.

And yes, the media is blowing it up,
Some people are rightfully pissed that the armed man is being protected by police.

 

[specsaregood]

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[moderate libertarian]

That was posted in the main thread on the subject.

I've got an even better conspiracy.

The Martin shooting has been bubbling in the background for a month now.

But it just blew up now.

Sure took that story of the Afghan village slaughter off the front page, didn't it now?

Could Obama electioneering gurus like David Axlerod or one of those told Obama and media owners to talk it up?

+rep for an astute observation.

 

[azxd]

The point is that Trayvon isn't quite as affable as he's been portrayed, which matters somewhat because it does paint a picture of someone, who might be quick to get into a fistfight.

The points raised in the article, however are extremely weak, and even if Trayvon did throw the first punch, that's not good enough for a self defense case.

Tell that to the people who have been killed by 1 punch ... It happens.

 

[Cowlesy]

How long was the story about that white girl that disappeared in Aruba on the air?

I didn't know there was a racial component to the crime on that one, but I do recall hearing about it.

 

[azxd]

You are wrong and you are giving out information that could potentially land people in prison for a long period of time if followed:

Q. When can I use my handgun to protect myself?

A. Florida law justifies use of deadly force when you are:

Trying to protect yourself or another person from death or serious bodily harm;

Very judgemental and absolutely wrong of you to suggest that a fist fight cannot end in death, and that a fist fight will not bring with it serious harm or death.

 

[The_Ruffneck]

someone explain why the trayvon story is getting so much more media attention than the two white tourists that got killed in Florida because they walked into the wrong neighbouhood a while back? The black kid who killed those two white guys was jailed recently , hardly any coverage.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The media is manipulating the public about this story...from the use of the pic of Trayvon as an angelic 12-year old to the pic of Zimmerman as a thug, wearing what looks like an orange prison jumpsuit.

It doesn't matter/shouldn't matter whether the young man was a Boy Scout or a tattoo-covered drug dealer. Nor should it matter whether he was suspended from school or whether said suspension was due to some previous incidence of violence that involved Trayvon. All of that is circumstantial evidence, and certainly does NOT give anyone the right to hunt him down and stalk him/shoot him.

But since it doesn't matter, why did the media manipulate the story in the first place? Y'all know the answer: so there would be a rush to judgement about Zimmerman. Maybe all we know is not all there is to know. Since when do we trust the MSM to give us all of the facts about a story, particularly when they have an agenda?

 

[angelatc]

The last line of the article:



No it is not, based on the facts so far presented.

Self defense with deadly force is not justified, legally, if you provoke or prolong or instigate an altercation that otherwise would not have happened had you not done so.

"Stand your ground" laws do not change that.

And neither does the affiliations of your victim. This "crucify the victim" tendency is horrible. I don't get why so many people are so desperate to believe Zimmerman is innocent.

 

[azxd]

And neither does the affiliations of your victim. This "crucify the victim" tendency is horrible. I don't get why so many people are so desperate to believe Zimmerman is innocent.

I'm gonna guess the numbers are about equal to those who think the kid was innocent.