**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[Danke]

Be careful with your logic here....your making way too much sense for some in here.

Supposedly he lost sight of the kid, that is why he got out of his vehicle to look around.

But no one really knows all the facts at this point.

 

[TheeJoeGlass]

It does not matter if the kid was innocent.
He had a RIGHT to BE there.

Zimmerman had NO right to assault him.

If Zimmerman had not gotten OUT of his Vehicle and Confronted (assaulted) Travon there would have been no fight.

How is that so hard to understand.

Zimmerman was well within his right to confront the perp. Why is he not allowed to get out of his truck? Why is he supposed to know that instead of Martin answering in a non criminal manner(running) and simply talk like normal people instead of acting scared that a mexican was gonna hurt him.

 

[asurfaholic]

Right on cue. Government media complex going for the throat on this.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...ich Santorum Rhetoric For Trevon Martin Death

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...Finney-Links-To-Trayvon-Shooting-To-Kochs-NRA

Now folks understand why many of us are so angry about how this has been presented? Apparently, the conservative, more libertarian segment of society is now responsible for the death of Trayvon Martin as opposed to one man. LOL Go figure. And no one here is defending Zimmerman if he did use excessive force. But this is how the establishment plays.

That's just what I hate about our country. Police killers, police protecting killers. The media never reports the whole story. Here we have the black panthers going public with their hate, and its ok. But if someone opposes obama for something, its called racism.

 

[pcosmar]

No, it's not. First, you're laying out the situation in such a manner to lead one to believe that Zimmerman ALREADY had those facts in hand, when he confronted Martin. At the time, Martin was a stranger to the neighborhood in his estimation. I have no problem with Zimmerman accosting Martin on principle. For hundreds of years going to back to the Middle Ages, there were night watchmen assigned to street duty in a given village to make certain no one got their throat slit or had their valuables stolen. Rather, I'm questioning why Zimmerman took it upon himself to fire his weapon at Martin. That's the issue.

Whoa. I am in favor of Neighborhood watches.. And of vigilance.

I do have a problem with free people being accosted. Regardless of any alleged authority.

And if this "watchman" was on his job as some claim. why did he not see the kid leave his fathers home only minutes before and walk to that store?

 

[eduardo89]

Don't we have more pressing issues to worry about than this?

 

[specsaregood]

Why is he supposed to know that instead of Martin answering in a non criminal manner(running) and simply talk like normal people instead of acting scared that a mexican was gonna hurt him.

You say "non criminal manner", another might argue "purdence". Perhaps the kid had life experiences different than your own that have taught him that it is better to run.

 

[pcosmar]

Zimmerman was well within his right to confront the perp.

He was not a "perp".
He was the son of a resident who had walked to the store for candy.

 

[Danke]

Don't we have more pressing issues to worry about than this?

Yes, I still need additional funds to get to Disneyland, thanks.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Cops roughly prevent 20% of the crimes committed

Really? How do you know that? How could anyone possibly know that?

 

[azxd]

It does not matter if the kid was innocent.
He had a RIGHT to BE there.

Zimmerman had NO right to assault him.

If Zimmerman had not gotten OUT of his Vehicle and Confronted (assaulted) Travon there would have been no fight.

How is that so hard to understand.

Because regardless of what the media is telling you, getting out of a vehicle, approaching someone, and asking them questions, or not ... Does not constitute assault.
Stupid perhaps, but it is not assault.

Heck,
I can imagine that in your World asking questions can be equated to assault, but it is only a verbal assault, and aligns with that old phrase about sticks and stones.

ETA:
But I do appreciate your ability to know who is guilty of assault WITHOUT having been there.

 

[coastie]

Zimmerman was well within his right to confront the perp. Why is he not allowed to get out of his truck?

Because he was CCW in Florida, which requires you to keep your head and not do shit like this. He injected himself into this situation with a gun. It is a FACT that he was on the phone while fat-boy was pursuing him, this is not threatening behavior by any stretch.

Why is he supposed to know that instead of Martin answering in a non criminal manner(running) and simply talk like normal people instead of acting scared that a mexican was gonna hurt him.

Looks like he was right to be scared in the end, doesn't it? Martin wasn't required by law to address Zimmerman regardless, he just wanted to be a cop-he wasn't one.

 

[Brian Coulter]

I guess I'm the only one who really doesn't give a shit about this case.

Nope

 

[pcosmar]

ETA:
But I do appreciate your ability to know who is guilty of assault WITHOUT having been there.

An armed man shot an unarmed man.
That is pretty clear.

 

[frodus24]

I wonder if someone is hoarding video footage?

 

[Bruno]

Don't we have more pressing issues to worry about than this?

Considering the non-pressing content of some your own posts, that is pretty funny.

 

[coastie]

Considering the non-pressing content of some your own posts, that is pretty funny.

LMAO-beat me to it.

 

[eduardo89]

Considering the non-pressing content of your own posts, that is pretty funny.

Walmart experiences and Danke going to Disneyland are more pressing matters to be discussed than a shooting which no one here really knows any details about.

 

[coastie]

Walmart experiences and Danke going to Disneyland are more pressing matters to be discussed than a shooting which no one here really knows any details about.

 

[specsaregood]

Walmart experiences and Danke going to Disneyland are more pressing matters to be discussed than a shooting which no one here really knows any details about.

no wonder you are single, you don't recognize the fun in argumentative foreplay.

 

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