**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[Sublyminal]

The internet is still a bit of a fantasy world. You can be whatever you want to be. you want to be half-black, so be it. you look the same to me on the internet -- although you currently look like a pissed off old white guy. Me? I drive a kick ass car and sang in a kick ass musical with dolly parton.

Well, R. Lee Ermey is considered a pissed off old white former Marine, so I suppose you're onto something.

 

[specsaregood]

Well, R. Lee Ermey is considered a pissed off old white former Marine, so I suppose you're onto something.

I notice you and AF both chose characters that come to tragic endings in their films. I wonder what an armchair shrink would say about that.

 

[Sublyminal]

I notice you and AF both chose characters that come to tragic endings in their films. I wonder what an armchair shrink would say about that.

Hmmm, quick, I'm sure you can find a wannabe shrink on the net somewhere.

 

[specsaregood]

Hmmm, quick, I'm sure you can find a wannabe shrink on the net somewhere.

At least AF's character has that whole I died for a great cause bigger than myself thing going for it. But yours? Killed by some pitiful fat guy that lost his marbles? Choosing that has all kinds of dark implications I'm afraid to delve into.

Burt on the other hand, fast cars, fast women, chimpanzees and elephants. I clearly don't get any of those.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Apparently Trayvon attacked Zimmerman after Zimmerman was following him around the neighborhood to make sure he wasn't a criminal.

The person you are responding to actually said that he got what he deserved because he 'went for his gun'. Trayvon did not have a gun and I don't recall Zimmerman making a statement like that so the poster was likely misinformed.

Misinformed or outright making shit up/lying? I'd say the latter.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Are you and blackterrel both idiots or what? TRAYVON went for Zimmerman's gun, not his own. I can't believe how retarded you both are. Actually I can. I mean shit, don't they teach you kids anything in school these days? You know, shit like reading comprehension and stuff like that.

They didn't teach me in school to make up random bullshit about how an unarmed guy lunged for an armed guys gun. Where are you getting your info from? I can't debate you if you're just making shit up.

Next you'll tell me that aliens shot Trayvon.

 

[Anti Federalist]

At least AF's character has that whole I died for a great cause bigger than myself thing going for it. But yours? Killed by some pitiful fat guy that lost his marbles? Choosing that has all kinds of dark implications I'm afraid to delve into.

Burt on the other hand, fast cars, fast women, chimpanzees and elephants. I clearly don't get any of those.

This ran through my head in that other thread:

 

[The Free Hornet]

Obama was asked about the case, and at the time a prosecution was looking unlikely. Only after all the furor did the state attorney say he would submit it to the grand jury.

His remarks looked prepared and race-based. How many cases does anti-Fed post that don't comments from Obama because they are cops vs mundanes? I am criticizing more than just Obama. His problem is not having the sense to either stay out or give other situations equal treatment (and I realize that is not very feasible).

Zimmerman was not arrested, he was detained, questioned, and released. And DailyKos has a lot of random bloggers that are nobodies, besides, why should I care what a Kos blogger says anyway?

Uh, how you feel is not the same as the law, and there is a legal distinction between detention and arrest.

Why should you care? Find a better reference. Regarding arrest vs detention, it can seem arbitrary (question of degree):

Nonetheless, a detention, preventing your leaving, asking you questions, is still much less than arresting you with the consequences that implies. An arrest means you are under official control [like handcuffs?]. You may not leave the area at your will ['cause of the handcuffs]. A pat down search for weapons may be conducted if apparently necessary, and you will be booked. Clearly, the question is one of degree.

http://www.csudh.edu/dearhabermas/detent.htm

Can you point to a refernce? Let's keep my feelings out of it. Here is another reference:

Under United States v. Mayen-Munoz, when you handcuff a compliant suspect and remove him from the scene down to the station, even for a brief time of 5 minutes, that constitutes an arrest. Handcuffs are not an absolute signal of arrest, they can be used for officer safety, but when there is no reason to suspect that the suspect is armed and dangerous, handcuffs signal arrest.

http://ncguns.blogspot.com/2012/03/why-does-everyone-think-zimmerman-wasnt.html

Uh oh! Looks like another blogger. Guess what? I'm fighting for liberty and against the MSM. I don't give a rat's ass if it is just another blogger because I'll trust a random person from the phonebook before ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS/FOX/CNN.

You do understand that the "flipping the bird" photo has been busted as being of another Trayvon Martin, right?

No - I'll remove it then.

 

[kylejack]

Why should you care? Find a better reference. Regarding arrest vs detention, it can seem arbitrary (question of degree)

One distinction is that detentions are virtually always fairly short while someone who is arrested can be held until trial, if no bail is set or if they can't afford it. Another is that an arrest would have shown up on Zimmerman's arrest record in the future. If he has another suspicious shooting, there is something to refer back to for investigators.

 

[cajuncocoa]

You do understand that the "flipping the bird" photo has been busted as being of another Trayvon Martin, right?

There are two such photos...the one TFH posted IS of the Trayvon Martin who is the subject of this thread.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp << scroll all the way to the bottom.

 

[Cowlesy]

Shocker.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-F...recounts-assault-by-6-youths-in-E-Toledo.html

 

[azxd]

The internet is still a bit of a fantasy world. You can be whatever you want to be. you want to be half-black, so be it. you look the same to me on the internet -- although you currently look like a pissed off old white guy. Me? I drive a kick ass car and sang in a kick ass musical with dolly parton.

And here I was thinking all you did of value was jump a frog

 

[tfurrh]

What does my avatar say about me?

 

[azxd]

Shocker.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-F...recounts-assault-by-6-youths-in-E-Toledo.html

It's to bad the guy who yelled didn't just shoot all those punks.

 

[azxd]

What does my avatar say about me?

That you really like tall doorways.

 

[jmdrake]

Once again, another person that didn't pay attention in third grade English. You do realize there is more than one Zimmerman right? There is the elder Zimmerman, who has publicly come out and said that George told him, that Trayvon went for his gun, his gun as in his son's gun. As I said had the kid not been acting like a thug and not started shit with George and let the police resolve everything he'd still be alive today.

I truly love all the retards that called me racist (a half black male, mind you) because I think the punk got what he deserved. Bleeding heart sissies like blackterrel, coming out commenting to shit he knows nothing about. And PCO calling me a racist, good work guys, allow me to reward you both with the internet's retard of the year award.

Ummm....do you realize that Dannno has been consistently arguing from your side and that pcosmar is probably old enough to be your daddy? No. Probably not. You're too busy mouthing off and trying to show how important and informed you are. Carry on.

 

[Sublyminal]

They didn't teach me in school to make up random bullshit about how an unarmed guy lunged for an armed guys gun. Where are you getting your info from? I can't debate you if you're just making shit up.

Next you'll tell me that aliens shot Trayvon.

George Zimmerman's dad and Zimmerman himself have both said Trayvon went for the gun. Do you not pay attention to the news or are you just one of these black folk that quickly go off the handle because the NBP tells you too. Look at both sides of the story kiddo.

.... did you really bring aliens into this?

 

[Sublyminal]

Ummm....do you realize that Dannno has been consistently arguing from your side and that pcosmar is probably old enough to be your daddy? No. Probably not. You're too busy mouthing off and trying to show how important and informed you are. Carry on.

I highly doubt he is old enough to be my dad, but nice try though. And when I'm insulted by being called a racist you're damned right I'm going to mouth off.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I highly doubt he is old enough to be my dad, but nice try though. And when I'm insulted by being called a racist you're damned right I'm going to mouth off.

Who called you a racist?

I've gone back over the thread and haven't seen that.

Link?

 

[Ender]

George Zimmerman's dad and Zimmerman himself have both said Trayvon went for the gun. Do you not pay attention to the news or are you just one of these black folk that quickly go off the handle because the NBP tells you too. Look at both sides of the story kiddo.

.... did you really bring aliens into this?

Nice to know Zimmerman's dad was an eyewitness. I'm sure he can tell us all about the event with absolutely no prejudice as to who was guilty.