**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[RonPaulMall]

This is how you're painting the picture-

You completely and repeatedly ignore the fact that it was Zimmerman that started this by ENGAGING Martin in the first place, and that the douchebag made it known how he felt about these "fucking coons" and that "they always get away", further showing his his predisposition of Martin and those that look like him.
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We ignore it because it is utterly irrelevant. There is no law in Florida which prevents one from following another human being in order to ask them a question.

I'd also point out that even the media manipulated tape has Zimmerman saying "fucking unintelligible". Sounds something like "ooh-nz" but could be goons,loons, coons, or some spanish word for all we know. Only somebody with an agenda against Zimmerman would presume he says coons, or for that matter, that he was talking about Martin and not the Police. That's the other thing you are missing- the context. This neighborhood had been plagued with a string of recent unsolved robberies. "They always get away" was a statement of fact, and an in indictment of the very police Zimmerman was calling, not Martin.

 

[azxd]

Do you think it's normal to follow someone in the dark when it's raining to ask them a question? Neighborhood Watch are not supposed to get involved. They simply report to the police what they see. They're not police. Police are the fact-finders who get to the bottom of what's going on.

I have no idea what is normal for another individual, but I do understand that asking a question is not an assault.

 

[azxd]

So that's a yes?

INterpret what you want ... And condemn those you feel it is appropriate to condemn.

 

[moo]

NOW zimmerman is claiming trayvon knocked him to the ground, broke his nose, bashed his head into the ground then reached for his gun. if trayvon was strong enough to do all of this damage then trayvon couldve easily snatched the gun from the grasp of a 200 something pound man & killed zimmerman.

it's only when trayvon reached for the gun did zimmerman suddenly have the strength speed and agility to wrestle a gun out of the grasp of a 140lbs teenage boy...even after being brutally beat down to a pulp.

 

[coastie]

I have no idea what is normal for another individual, but I do understand that asking a question is not an assault.

So you're ignoring (once again) what MARTIN'S perception of the situation was, at that time, and ASSUMING Zimmerman was full of good intentions. Roger that.

 

[azxd]

What in God's name are you talking about? It is not illegal to get out of a car. It is not illegal to approach a stranger. It is not illegal to ask somebody what they are doing.

That's why I told her to go to a CCW class.

 

[AuH20]

NOW zimmerman is claiming trayvon knocked him to the ground, broke his nose, bashed his head into the ground then reached for his gun. if trayvon was strong enough to do all of this damage then trayvon couldve easily snatched the gun from the grasp of a 200 something pound man & killed zimmerman.

it's only when trayvon reached for the gun did zimmerman suddenly have the strength speed and agility to wrestle a gun out of the grasp of a 140lbs teenage boy...even after being brutally beat down to a pulp.

Martin was on the football team. He wasn't exactly scrawny. Secondly, if he surprised Zimmerman from behind, the above isn't that far fetched.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

pretty stupid to turn your back on somebody you found threatening enough to call the cops on.

It would be interesting to know how that "conversation" went. George was walking away. Was he satisfied that Trayvon lived there? Was the conversation over? Or was he de-escalating by walking away? Not that we'll ever know the real answers to any of these questions.

 

[azxd]

pretty stupid to turn your back on somebody you found threatening enough to call the cops on.

Gee ... I thought he called in someone suspicious.
How did it become threatening ? ... Oh, I get it ... You're mixing words intentionally

 

[RonPaulMall]

Martin was on the football team. He wasn't exactly scrawny. Secondly, if he surprised Zimmerman from behind, the above isn't that far fetched.

And he is 17 years old. Hardly a "boy" like the gold toothless, taken when he was 14 years old pictures the MSM has been shamelessly running with every time they feature this story.

 

[specsaregood]

Gee ... I thought he called in someone suspicious.
How did it become threatening ? ... Oh, I get it ... You're mixing words intentionally

I'm not mixing anything; to be "mixing" would require me to have used the word suspicious to describe Martin. I wouldn't turn my back on somebody in that situation. Would you?

 

[azxd]

Not, it's not what I'm referring to as "engagement"-you're only twisting it that way. BIG difference. I've already stated a thousand times that Zimmerman started ALL OF THIS> It's you and your idiot clones that start the story at the fight and him shooting Martin.

This is how you're painting the picture-

You completely and repeatedly ignore the fact that it was Zimmerman that started this by ENGAGING Martin in the first place, and that the douchebag made it known how he felt about these "fucking coons" and that "they always get away", further showing his his predisposition of Martin and those that look like him.

Now, read closely:


According to Florida State Law, the very fact he was carrying a weapon means it was he that should've have shown prior restraint. In other words, he's not a cop, has no law enforcement powers, and therefore is his responsibility to do whatever he can to diffuse the situation, which he clearly did not. Martin, who, according to early reports, told his girlfriend he was ON THE PHONE WITH he was scared about the bozo following him.

He made contact with Martin, who then ran, and understandably so considering how MARTIN perceived the situation AT THAT TIME. Whether or not he "should've" ran is entirely irrelevant here.This is where it should've ended as far as Zimmerman is concerned, he should've left the scene and let the police handle it from there.

Everything that happened after this point is where you guys want to start the story.

I for one, do not believe for a minute this fat fuck would've ever even approached Martin if not for his gun.

I take it you feel you are loosing this argument, or you'd not be resorting to name calling ... Or perhaps it's just the emotional side of you coming out.
Which is it ?

As for restraint,
Gee ... He didn't try to make a citizens arrest, did he ?
He didn't just come up and shoot Martin, did he ?

Zimmerman was, per 6 witnesses, assaulted, and defended himself with an equal level of force as he returned to his car ... But you want him to go home after the initial event and leave his blockwatch duties.
Got it !!

 

[specsaregood]

Gee ... I thought he called in someone suspicious.
How did it become threatening ? ... Oh, I get it ... You're mixing words intentionally

So you don't think he thought the kid was a threat? Why'd he feel the need to hunt him down if he wasn't a threat to anybody or anything?

 

[azxd]

Are you seriously mentally disabled? Re-read what you wrote. Zimmerman getting out of his car DID cause an escalation. THIS is where the prosecution(if there is one) is going to start, and end, this case.

 

[phill4paul]

Will someone please link me to these SIX WITNESSES police report. I'd like to see the entire interview (not just the summary of statement) and whether or not the officers led the witnesses as they did the school teacher.

 

[cajuncocoa]

...defend Zimmerman getting a fair trial without stretching the truth in the process.

I'd have guessed that's what the majority of liberty-minded individuals would advocate: a fair trial for Zimmerman. It's getting harder for me to believe that's possible with each passing hour.

 

[kylejack]

Zimmerman was, per 6 witnesses, assaulted, and defended himself with an equal level of force as he returned to his car ... But you want him to go home after the initial event and leave his blockwatch duties.
Got it !!

No, he was not returning to his car. The altercation took place behind the townhomes, where he had followed Trayvon. There's no street signs behind the townhomes.

 

[AuH20]

I think you make a great point. Just because someone approaches or follows you and then proceeds to ask you questions, doesn't necessarily mean you have the right to pummel them.

 

[azxd]

So you're ignoring (once again) what MARTIN'S perception of the situation was, at that time, and ASSUMING Zimmerman was full of good intentions. Roger that.

If you say so

 

[jmdrake]

I'll try to remember that the next time I ask someone a question, and later get jumped LOL

You mean the next time you try to pretend your a policeman and you try to intimidate and/or assault someone?

And the bolded part,
I hope you remember that if/when you are assaulted.

I doubt you even know what the word assault means. You're clearly confusing it with battery. Regardless, if I pick a fight and lose, and from all sane indications that's what Zimmerman did, then that's my own fault. If I decide to shoot someone under those circumstances I deserve to be prosecuted. I hope you remember what all of this when someone kills your unarmed child and then claims "self defense".