OFFICIAL Mississippi U.S. Senate Election RESULTS THREAD

[mosquitobite]

It's like a pendulum, this Republican Party. Pundits and the like said the Tea Party was alive and kicking after Cantor's sudden defeat, and now they'll say the Establishment struck back.

I think that will work in our favor if we paint it right.

The Establishment fought back and won Democrat votes with an establishment democrat-lite candidate.

 

[RP Supporter]

McDaniel is attacking the GOP establishment for allowing Democrats to decide the primary and not conceding! Good for him. Its to late for him to run as a third party outside of a write-in, but could he get the reform party nominee to quit and take his place on their ticket? Probably a pipe dream, but eh.

 

[CPUd]

It's like a pendulum, this Republican Party. Pundits and the like said the Tea Party was alive and kicking after Cantor's sudden defeat, and now they'll say the Establishment struck back.

That's not what they're saying now. Mostly it is about how a 42-year incumbent almost lost, and how the Democrat voters saved him. They are looking like:

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I'm planing my speech for my last day in the republican club here. I will bring up this crooked election and how they want us to "unite" behind the candidate who "won". I will tell them something along the lines that if they needed democrat votes to get Thad to win this election then maybe in November a REAL democrat needs to win the general. I for one will be done with the GOP and watch from the sidelines as they wither and die as a party. There are no young excited party members. Just old tired cronies who have one foot in the grave and in 10 years most of them will have the other foot there as well.

 

[Ecolibertarian]

I'm certainly not a fan of Karl Rove, but his analysis of the Mississippi race on Fox News just a few minutes ago was correct. He said that Thad Cochran can thank Mississippi's open primary law for his victory. He would've had no chance if only Republicans had been allowed to vote in this race.

I agree with TC 100%.

What we need to do now is to prevent this from happening again. I think we're all in agreement that we have not lost a "battle for the soul of the GOP," but have in fact won that battle so convincingly that the establishment candidate survived only by betraying the party to the Democrats.


So. Grassroots agitation for closed primaries? What do you guys think?

 

[Vanguard101]

I agree with TC 100%.

What we need to do now is to prevent this from happening again. I think we're all in agreement that we have not lost a "battle for the soul of the GOP," but have in fact won that battle so convincingly that the establishment candidate survived only by betraying the party to the Democrats.


So. Grassroots agitation for closed primaries? What do you guys think?

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

 

[Ecolibertarian]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

I agree. I should have explained myself more clearly, but what I was trying to say was that we ought to agitate for​ the closure of primaries to spoilers. That way, establishment pork-barrelers can't use dems in order to slant primaries against liberty candidates.

 

[William Tell]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.

 

[Ecolibertarian]

Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.

Bingo. If a mattress store can escort out folks who want to take a nap and not buy anything, GOP should be able to keep out those who are registered to and will vote for another party.

 

[Ecolibertarian]

Copied from Wikipedia:

States with an open presidential primary[edit]

Alabama
Arizona (Semi-closed, with primaries open only to unaffiliated or unrepresented voters)
Arkansas
Georgia
Hawaii (Open primary for state, local, and congressional races; caucus system for presidential races.)
Illinois
Massachusetts (All races' primaries open for "unenrolled"/unaffiliated voters only)
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin[11]

States with open primaries for other elections[edit]

A similar system known as a nonpartisan blanket primary has been used in Louisiana for state and local elections since 1976, and began to be used in Washington, after numerous court challenges, in 2008.
In California, under Proposition 14, a measure that easily passed, traditional party primaries will be replaced in 2011 with wide-open elections. Proposition 14, known as the open primary measure, will give every voter the same ballot in primary elections for most state and federal races, except the presidential contest.[12][13]

 

[William Tell]

Bingo. If a mattress store can escort out folks who want to take a nap and not buy anything, GOP should be able to keep out those who are registered to and will vote for another party.

Yes, but it's complicated because the Fed and State governments do subsidize primaries as I understand it.

 

[tsai3904]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

Closed primaries will hurt Rand a lot. He polls significantly higher with Independents than Republicans.

The problem today was that there was no Democratic primary for Dems to vote in so they wanted to make their voice heard in the Republican primary.

 

[Ecolibertarian]

Closed primaries will hurt Rand a lot. He polls significantly higher with Independents than Republicans.

The problem today was that there was no Democratic primary for Dems to vote in so they wanted to make their voice heard in the Republican primary.

Good point. Thank you, I guess the emotion of this was getting in the way of my long-term thinking.

 

[William Tell]

Good point. Thank you, I guess the emotion of this was getting in the way of my long-term thinking.

It's damned if we do, and damned if we don't. There is no right answer besides take action and organize.

 

[Vanguard101]

Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.

Completely forgot

 

[William Tell]

McDaniel to challenge illegal voting by Democrats


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/24/Cochran-McDaniel-Results-Legal-Challenges

 

[William Tell]

Completely forgot

It's really a twisted subject though, both the theory and reality Government in relation to political parties.

 

[cindy25]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

I disagree. Rand would benefit from young Dems and Indies. far more than Jeb or Huck. it was Dems that won it for Brat.

 

[William Tell]

it was Dems that won it for Brat.

That was not the case as far as I can tell.

 

[Vanguard101]

Holy sht