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0zzy said:
Worst case scenario:

Ron Paul isn't a Republican
Ron Paul is a racist
Ron Paul is an anti-Semite
Ron Paul is blaming America for 9/11
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Tim Russert tried very hard to paint Ron Paul as an anti-Semite and a racist. Ron Paul is neither. I love the answer Ron gave concerning the Civil War and slavery. It is a fact that 600 thousand Americans lost their lives in that war, including many black Americans from the North and South. As Ron Paul said, the slaves should have been purchased by the Federal government and set free, thereby avoiding all of the bloodshed and destruction (as many of us know, slavery was not the reason for the war, it was an excuse).

The fact is Lincoln and his supporters successfully perfected a coup. The relationship between the Federal government and the States changed forever, whereas the Federal government went from having limited power under the Constitution to unlimited power over the States and the people. The Federal government made all kinds of promises to the newly emancipated slaves and broke them all. Many politicians are doing the same thing to this day.
 
Triton said:
Russert pwned Paul on earmarks. To think otherwise is self-delusion, plain and simple. Otherwise, it was actually a good half-hour. I give it a 7 out of 10. If Russert doesn't make you look like the south end of a northbound horse, you've done well.
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Yeah he "pwned " him, but only if you stopped watching before Paul got the chance to respond.
 
I thought he did a very good job. I love that Dr Paul directly answers the questions that he is asked. There is no side stepping or double talk like with other candidates.
 
Russert did not pwn anyone on earmarks. If you actually understood the system you'd know that Ron Paul gave a good answer. If you don't understand the system then you give ignorant statements like some are doing. Ron Paul is 100% correct on the issue.
 
grizzums said:
I have worked on my brother for a good couple months now, trying to educate him on Paul's platform and philosophies. He has been a really tough sell (very big war supporter)...
...he didn't say much during the whole interview...he was pretty focused...lol - after RP's time just finished, he turned to me and said..."Okay, I'm not completely convinced that he can accomplish all that he advocates for, but he's got my support."
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Our guy is a little magical all on his own.

And if you have a conservative bone in your body, he can find it.

Even at times when he doesn't speak as clearly as we'd hope, he does manage to communicate pretty well somehow. I've seen other reports like yours too. And the party has abandoned all of us who signed on for Reagan and Gingrich. None of the others will run for liberty and small-government. Ron Paul sings that siren song well.

And eloquence isn't everything either. GWB won twice and is probably the most incoherent president in our entire history. And Republicans voted for him big time. Good grief, his speeches (and those press conferences!) are just torture to even watch.

RP is kind of a phenomenon.
 
Triton said:
Russert pwned Paul on earmarks. To think otherwise is self-delusion, plain and simple. Otherwise, it was actually a good half-hour. I give it a 7 out of 10. If Russert doesn't make you look like the south end of a northbound horse, you've done well.
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I thought Ron Paul's answer on this was clear. The money is already there waiting to be alloted and his district should not get ignored by money that essentially is already spent and will be spent otherwise. He still votes against the BILL if it is unconstitutional, but to extend that to say he adds the earmark then "votes against it" is absolutely ridiculous and ignorant of the politics involved.
 
Did anyone notice that Russert thought he was going to get the last word in and "hack-job" Ron Paul by saying his quote on Fox News wasn't even accurate, but Ron Paul wouldn't stand for it and got his answer in quickly and energetically.

Russert's "Hack Job" he had been saving for last, failed miserably.
 
grizzums said:
Finished watching it a second time, this time with my brother who has been an incessant Bush supporter/defender for the first 5+ years of his Presidency....

I don't know how much my bias influences my rating but whereas I gave him a 5-6 on the interview my first watch, I've upped it to a 7 on the second pass. I have watched MTP for several years so I know how Russert and the shows format works. I actually respect TR and his consistent "hard ball questioning" of his guests, for the most part.

I have worked on my brother for a good couple months now, trying to educate him on Paul's platform and philosophies. He has been a really tough sell (very big war supporter)...

...he didn't say much during the whole interview...he was pretty focused...lol - after RP's time just finished, he turned to me and said..."Okay, I'm not completely convinced that he can accomplish all that he advocates for, but he's got my support."

:eek::eek: I'm not kidding...I did NOT expect that. He had to run out of here to finish XMas shopping, but man....I am just kind of in "shock and awe"...you would be too if you knew my bro.
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You know what.. you bring up a tremendously good point - and that is, almost always, Dr. Paul's interviews play MUCH MUCH BETTER the second (third/fourth/fifth) go arounds.

Sure, a lot of moments instantly register as being "positive" or very well articulated (re: "I take my marching orders from the constitution!").. but some do not. But then.. when they get re-aired or replayed via youTube, I personally find myself being far more impressed with Paul's 'positioning'

Our man really does have "it"... I hope that everyone takes a second look at the interview.. (especially the MSM) :)
 
boondoggle said:
True or False, guys (I didn't see it):
"Supporters of the US Congressman from Texas may believe he had a good appearance and most of the time any mainstream airtime for a dark horse candidate like Paul would be welcomed, but this was a disaster. Those that have Meet the Press on in the background on the television as they are getting the family ready for Church would have been appalled at the way his positions were described by Russert.

And Ron didn't help matters at all. He was on the defensive from the start of the interview and never rebounded. As I feared, Paul was unprepared and looked foolish as Russert peppered him with old quotes and positions. The interview was fair and this is just what I expected from the NBC giant. It was actually rather sad to see him manhandled this way but you can easily score this one Russert 1 Paul 0. "
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And you can find articles saying the complete opposite. Do a google search on it.
 
Giuliani was there on 911 said:
Yeah he "pwned " him, but only if you stopped watching before Paul got the chance to respond.
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I call for a moratorium on "pwn" and any variation thereof. Just because every decade creates an idiotic word and bludgeons it to death (60s: "groovy"; 70s: "solid"; 80s: "dude"; 90s: "kewl") doesn't mean the next generation has to as well.
 
Ron Paul Fan said:
Russert did not pwn anyone on earmarks. If you actually understood the system you'd know that Ron Paul gave a good answer. If you don't understand the system then you give ignorant statements like some are doing. Ron Paul is 100% correct on the issue.
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Earmarks are 100% unconstitutional. When RP submits an earmark - ANY earmark - he is 100% wrong.
 
I think the earmarks response is genius. I knew his stance before going on the show (already a few clips on YouTube).

He can submit earmark requests because if they pass ANYWAY at least his district is getting something in return. Dr. Paul always votes AGAINST earmark bills in the end. But if they do happen to pass, his district will get something out of it. Otherwise their money will fund other earmark projects in different districts.

I hope you understand how this works before you "disagree" with the doctor.
 
wfd40 said:
You know what.. you bring up a tremendously good point - and that is, almost always, Dr. Paul's interviews play MUCH MUCH BETTER the second (third/fourth/fifth) go arounds.

Sure, a lot of moments instantly register as being "positive" or very well articulated (re: "I take my marching orders from the constitution!").. but some do not. But then.. when they get re-aired or replayed via youTube, I personally find myself being far more impressed with Paul's 'positioning'

Our man really does have "it"... I hope that everyone takes a second look at the interview.. (especially the MSM) :)
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I agree, although the average person will not re-watch so Paul needs to works on first impressions.

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/
 
cicatrice said:
I think the earmarks response is genius.
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Apparently AP thought it was "genius" too, 'cause their headline is PAUL DEFENDS EARMARKS.

Trying to defend RP's position on earmarks only makes one look like a fanboy. :(
 
musicmax said:
I call for a moratorium on "pwn" and any variation thereof. Just because every decade creates an idiotic word and bludgeons it to death (60s: "groovy"; 70s: "solid"; 80s: "dude"; 90s: "kewl") doesn't mean the next generation has to as well.
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"Groovy" was the people who didn't get it. The real term was "Far out."
 
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