OFFICIAL : Meet The Press thread : Sunday Morning!!

[LibertyRevolution]

is there no comericals in this show?

 

[stefans]

When someone who campaigns against earmarks is shown to have used them himself 65 times, and then tries to take the position that he was trying to relive the taxes of his district by taking some back, I call it pure pwnage.

He got caught with his hand in the same cookie jar everyone else's hand is in. Only it's worse for Ron Paul to have his hand in that cookie jar, as he is campaigning that we need to be on a diet.

I haven't seen the show yet, but ron paul never campaigned against earmarks.
he defended them, as long as they are discussed in the open and not inserted late at night, a short time before voting on the bill.

he thinks that getting rid of earmarks entirely transfers the decisions of how the money is spent in detail to the executive and he's against that.

 

[jeff_from_VA]

is there no comericals in this show?

no

 

[IHaveaDream]

A lot of supporters here just love Ron Paul and would rate that interview a 10 no matter what. I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but I'm also a long-time political observer with a strong tendency to avoid the "bandwagon" mindset.

In the real world of politics it was not a good interview. Maybe a 4 or 5 at best. He was completely ignored during the post-interview discussion. That says it all.

Ron Paul clearly has the best message, but people do not elect messages. They elect leaders, and RP does not convey leadership. You may not like these comments, but that's reality. He needs to sharpen his communication skills and go on offense with a noticable increase in strength and confidence.

Otherwise, he needs to pass the baton.

 

[JMO]

I dont know, I thought Ron got his ass kicked on that one too, but my girlfriend isnt political and said his answer made sense.. use the earmark like a tax credit and try and give back to his constituents.

It made sense to me. Ron Paul was saying he was just trying to get back some of the money taken from the people he represents rather than have it taken from them and giving it to someone else. What Ron Paul wants is to make it so that no money is taken from anyone, so he won't be forced to work within the current corrupt system of trying to get the money back from the people he represents. Until then he has to work within the system, just like you and I, even though we don't believe in the income tax we claim our tax credits to get the money back that was taken from us, we don't claim 0 out of principle, that would be silly to claim 0 and let the government spend my money instead of me.

 

[kevinblack]

When someone who campaigns against earmarks is shown to have used them himself 65 times, and then tries to take the position that he was trying to relive the taxes of his district by taking some back, I call it pure pwnage.

He got caught with his hand in the same cookie jar everyone else's hand is in. Only it's worse for Ron Paul to have his hand in that cookie jar, as he is campaigning that we need to be on a diet.

we need to look into this in more detail.

As far as I remember from the last time I looked at this earmark issue it goes something like this.

First the bill gets designed, at this time Ron Paul gets in earmarks that will help his constituents. This is his JOB.

Then the final bill is constructed and it gets passed out to vote. At this time Ron Paul looks at the whole bill and decides whether it is constitutional or not and votes accordingly. This is his JOB.

As far as I was able to see he ALWAYS voted against the bills with his earmarks.

To me this just makes him look good. Can somebody confirm I am not way off base here? If this is correct we need to market it for extra votes

 

[Ozwest]

When someone who campaigns against earmarks is shown to have used them himself 65 times, and then tries to take the position that he was trying to relieve the taxes of his district by taking some back, I call it pure pwnage.

He got caught with his hand in the same cookie jar everyone else's hand is in. Only it's worse for Ron Paul to have his hand in that cookie jar, as he is campaigning that we need to be on a diet.

Go research Ron Pauls answer to that question, when he has the sufficient time needed to respond.

 

[LinearChaos]

Otherwise, he needs to pass the baton.

Who the hell are you? Exactly who is he going to be passing this baton to?

 

[rp08orbust]

When someone who campaigns against earmarks is shown to have used them himself 65 times, and then tries to take the position that he was trying to relieve the taxes of his district by taking some back, I call it pure pwnage.

I haven't seen it yet, but did he point out that he ultimately votes against the earmarks by voting against the appropriations bill as a whole? If every Congressman voted like Ron Paul, then there would be no pork.

 

[jeff_from_VA]

What Ron Paul wants is to make it so that no money is taken from anyone, so he won't be forced to work within the current corrupt system of trying to get the money back from the people he represents.

Had he used that as an answer, he would have done well with the question.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

ok, 31mins i been agrevated by the host. now the fascism question. OMG GO RON GO! WAKE UP AMERICA!

 

[mavtek]

When someone who campaigns against earmarks is shown to have used them himself 65 times, and then tries to take the position that he was trying to relieve the taxes of his district by taking some back, I call it pure pwnage.

He got caught with his hand in the same cookie jar everyone else's hand is in. Only it's worse for Ron Paul to have his hand in that cookie jar, as he is campaigning that we need to be on a diet.

You clearly don't understand what Earmarks are, or you aren't really a Ron Paul supporter. Earmarks is money pre set aside for districts, it's going to be used regardless of whether Ron Paul has any say in it. You let your constituents tell their Representative (Ron Paul) what they want them used for. Ron Paul always votes against them though, but he will forward the request of his constituents to congress, it is his job in essence.

 

[wfd40]

DAMNNNN.. the end

 

[jufreese]

cant believe they didnt show the polls

Edit: spoke too soon

 

[LinearChaos]

Had he used that as an answer, he would have done well with the question.

Isn't that what he meant when he said that was ironic that Russert was trying to paint him as part of this corrupt system when that is what his campaigning against?

 

[crasster]

That's not what he implied. What he was going for there was pushing RP towards the position of looking like he just wants to change the constitution when he doesn't agree with it.

That's fine, the constitution allows you to amend it if you don't agree with it. Ron advocates amending it correctly and constitutionally.

 

[stefans]

we need to look into this in more detail.

As far as I remember from the last time I looked at this earmark issue it goes something like this.

First the bill gets designed, at this time Ron Paul gets in earmarks that will help his constituents. This is his JOB.

Then the final bill is constructed and it gets passed out to vote. At this time Ron Paul looks at the whole bill and decides whether it is constitutional or not and votes accordingly. This is his JOB.

As far as I was able to see he ALWAYS voted against the bills with his earmarks.

To me this just makes him look good. Can somebody confirm I am not way off base here?

that's how he explained it in the past. not this time?

 

[Ozwest]

A lot of supporters here just love Ron Paul and would rate that interview a 10 no matter what. I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but I'm also a long-time political observer with a strong tendency to avoid the "bandwagon" mindset.

In the real world of politics it was not a good interview. Maybe a 4 or 5 at best. He was completely ignored during the post-interview discussion. That says it all.

Ron Paul clearly has the best message, but people do not elect messages. They elect leaders, and RP does not convey leadership. You may not like these comments, but that's reality. He needs to sharpen his communication skills and go on offense with a noticable increase in strength and confidence.

Otherwise, he needs to pass the baton.

I and many others would disagree with your analysis most vememently!

 

[Lois]

Jeff From Va and I Have a Dream --

Who's side are you on, anyway???

 

[cska80]

Was there even one question that wasn't aimed for putting a negative spin on him the entire interview?