Official: Lew Rockwell Converts Naomi Wolf

[itsthepathocrats]

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[LittleLightShining]

G. Edward Griffin woke me up to the realities of the Federal Reserve and it's stranglehold on America. Then I saw a video of Naomi Wolf talking about her book End of America. Then I noticed the Ron Paul blurb on the back of Creature From Jekyll Island, looked him up and have been a supporter ever since. Then I read End of America.

Naomi Wolf had a huge influence on me. I still can't fathom why she actually believes what she does about Obama but I hope she's a) right or b) willing to lead the charge against him when he proves he's not what she and millions of others believe he is.

 

[mconder]

He said RP got less than 1% of the vote. That's not the way I recall it.

 

[Conza88]

In response to your Einstein "analogy," you are asking the forum to accept the notion that Lew, an expert in Austrian Economics, would not understand how a debt based fiat monetary system has been used for thousands of years in countless societies by an elite to oppress the mass man, and therefore he also does not understand how our current monetary system is being leveraged to suppress Americans currently?

Hahah, publicly as HE DID in this interview, he stated that it's NOT by design but by IGNORANCE of the rulers. Do I find it rather hard to believe he doesn't think it's not by design? Y-E-S, just like I think it's the same with Ron Paul who has on more than a few occasions dropped the NWO word. But it's rare and only when asked about...

Ron Paul: First Bush Was Working Towards New World Order
Ron Paul Bashes the New World Order at Rally in Nashville TN

Further, is it also your contention that while Lew does not posses these abilities, "'a forum poster' representing the KNOWLEDGE and often first hand experiences of G. Edward Griffin, Larry McDonald, Aaron Russo, Alex Jones" does possess the knowledge and acumen to identify the intent of the elite?

Or, is it you want the forum to accept the idea that Lew does in fact understand the relationships between the elite, the economic levers and societal liberties but chooses not to draw any conclusions or discuss his conclusions because it is not his job?

If these are your positions with respect to Lew, then they were accurately described as illogical.

Geezus christ... How am I to know if Lew really does know about the new world order, and that it is all by design or not?

Do YOU see him talking about the Global Elite and new world order? Do you see him addressing what cannot essentially be seen as credible? DO you think Lew Rockwell HEAD of the MISES Institute should start discussing the move towards one world government, correctly asserting its all by design by a few families / factions?

*Shakes head* What is your problem? Can you not see how clinically retarded that would be? He'd stain the name of himself, the brand of the institute, but above all else it would have been UNNECESSARY.

Quit trying to put words into my mouth, with your "contentions"

How the f--- is it illogical? There are two options; he is smart, intelligent and knows it is by design.. But he is also SMART and intelligent enough to KNOW, that he does NOT need to present it, as if it is.

You can fight the NWO without mentioning them... without going down the conspiracy road. Alex Jones is great for a reason. He doesn't need to care about his brand name etc.. he goes for the cold hard truth all the time. It's his job.

Lew would be an idiot if he started doing tyriads about the nwo etc. So yeah, it's NOT his job. And if he DOESN'T know, and he actually thinks its just by ignorance - that's because as was previously stated; he hasn't looked into the global elites, the endgame, what the UN has been doing, Agenda 21, the BIG picture... as we were talking about.

But that does NOT matter.. because it's not his JOB to know about that. He is in the Austrian School of Economics... he's going to spend his time writing articles, speeches, presentations, researching etc within that model.

So really.. what is the deal?

With regard to Naomi, one must understand the relationship between Cecil Rhodes and the CFR, Bill Clinton and the Rockefeller Family, Al Gore and the Club of Rome, and Naomi to Rhodes-Clinton-Gore. Once one sees that, any debate about her motivations, which are deeply disguised, become quite obvious.

Let me suggest the following reading list. While it is certainly not comprehensive, it's a list that is already on the web, is fairly well organized, and will certainly help you along your way of development. Perhaps start with Galton Dawin's Next Million Years....I'm pretty sure you can download it somewhere.

Yes I know all this. I've actually read a fair few on that list, and seen pretty much every movie mentioned.. I'll be adding / checking out the others and putting them on the lists should they be worthy.

 

[Archie]

Please Mrs. Wolf is always gonna be a leftist . She is going to vote that Marxist statist obama tommorow , and then she will talk "all nice to paleos " for the sole purpose of pimping her leftist books and putting the money away to send her children to a hardcore leftleaning university. People can think what they want about her but to me she just puts on a act to paleos and libertarions so they will buy her book. The only way she will prove me wrong is if she admits that Communism and Marxism has killed way more people then her so called "Fascist" fears dictate to her that its the opposite . She will probably use the old leftist mindless excuse of " we never had communism in its pure form "

 

[Peace&Freedom]

You can fight the NWO without mentioning them... without going down the conspiracy road. Alex Jones is great for a reason. He doesn't need to care about his brand name etc.. he goes for the cold hard truth all the time. It's his job.

Lew would be an idiot if he started doing tyriads about the nwo etc. So yeah, it's NOT his job. And if he DOESN'T know, and he actually thinks its just by ignorance - that's because as was previously stated; he hasn't looked into the global elites, the endgame, what the UN has been doing, Agenda 21, the BIG picture... as we were talking about.

I am fairly certain Rockwell knows about the NWO, agenda 21 et al, because when LRC had a links page, one of Alex Jones' sites called Propaganda Matrix was one of the links. For that matter, the first 9/11 truth info I ever read was on LRC, such as Morgan Reynolds' early pieces, and the contrarian articles about Aghanistan (e.g., Gary North mentioning that news organs had reported in June 2001 the US was preparing military ops against the Taliban). It's a matter of positioning, as indicated above, to keep the focus of his org and site on Austrian economics and applying libertarian thinking to all issues. That positioning doesn't mean Lew doesn't believe in the cover-ups or conspiracies (in fact, the blog section often leaves clues he does embrace most of them), he just isn't going to emphasize it.

 

[PatriotOne]

I am fairly certain Rockwell knows about the NWO, agenda 21 et al, because when LRC had a links page, one of Alex Jones' sites called Propaganda Matrix was one of the links.

Oh really? I have searched LRC's website to see if they ever discussed 9/11/NWO in THAT way. I was unsuccessful finding anything and just had a hard time believing that Rockwell didn't know. It does defy logic that someone so researched on the Fed didn't know about 9/11/NWO. But if he was linked to Propaganda Matrix at one time, then Conza is correct. He may of purged what he thought might be damaging to RP during the election cycle. I've always suspected RP was doing the same thing. I've always had a problem coming to terms that 2 men as smart as they are does not know .

 

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[RevolutionSD]

Please Mrs. Wolf is always gonna be a leftist . She is going to vote that Marxist statist obama tommorow , and then she will talk "all nice to paleos " for the sole purpose of pimping her leftist books and putting the money away to send her children to a hardcore leftleaning university. People can think what they want about her but to me she just puts on a act to paleos and libertarions so they will buy her book. The only way she will prove me wrong is if she admits that Communism and Marxism has killed way more people then her so called "Fascist" fears dictate to her that its the opposite . She will probably use the old leftist mindless excuse of " we never had communism in its pure form "

So cynical! And I believe wrong. The point that was amazing about that interview is that she is ASKING LOTS OF QUESTIONS. She wasn't "converted", but the things Lew said make her THINK, a lot more than she has in her whole life. This is monumental no matter how you try to spin it.

 

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[Archie]

So cynical! And I believe wrong. The point that was amazing about that interview is that she is ASKING LOTS OF QUESTIONS. She wasn't "converted", but the things Lew said make her THINK, a lot more than she has in her whole life. This is monumental no matter how you try to spin it.

Again think what you want about her,buy her books,and go and spread the word if your convinced she is no longer a marxist . I'm not convinced at all because she is "asking questions" Do you honestly think BE honest that she would support Ron Paul over Al Gore,Barack Obama,or Ralph Nader ? Its my strong opinion that she is a leftwing Rexalla van impe LOL !!! When someone writes books about how "evil gov't fascism is" but refuses to say "the people have the right to arm themselves for protection" I'm sorry but all her "serious scenarios" in her books is just non-sense in this context. I agree with alot of leftleaning people who say "there scared of nutty people being able to buy a gun" but to me that's all more the reason why you would want one for protection , I'm lucky to live in a great civil neighborhood so I may not seek to arm my self like some one else who lives in a dangerous neighborhood . But Mrs. Wolf seems to be an adult and still has trouble respecting the fact that everyone should have that choice. Mrs Wolfs gun views are the least of my own concern but to some who see the need for that protection see wolf as talking bullshit . To me the gun stance is minor compared to her worldview that the gov't should play a huge role in the redistribution of wealth and funding all sorts of "social" programs with taxpayer money . So untill I here mrs wolf not just "question things" but actually says flat out "I Believe in individual liberty and small gov't" I won't get my hopes up LOL that's not cynical its the bloody truth. Mrs wolf is not dumb she knows ya catches flies with honey not vinager ,and so far she has got alot of flies in the RP mov't to help put her children through a very expensive leftist university in the future IMHO LOL .

Wolf has admitted she is voting for "Big gov't/highertaxes" baracko the whackobama. Maybe I'm wrong and Mrs.wolf is some secret "small gov't Pat Buchanan supporter/RP paleo" and is infiltrating the leftwing from the inside . But I wouldnt bet my $ on it LOL !!!!

Serious though I'm just not as hyped about this as some but I do admit there is nothing wrong with trying to talk with others who hold diffrent views , Hell it might work!!! if you think you can reach Marxist-leftist types and want to try to unlock there minds I'm all for it and I thank you for it. But dont get mad if I'm not willing to teach some old dogs new tricks when I'd rather spend time on the younger puppies. I think ya understand what I'm saying in investing more time converting the youth to the liberty/freedom small gov't message then wasting time on the old folks who have already had plenty time to figure the "small gov't" freemarket cause out .

 

[itsthepathocrats]

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[Conza88]

Until one is willing to evaluate all motive alternatives for each vector-leader then
one will continue to be stuck in vector-leader-worship and not be able to
develop the most logical conclusion to the set of facts at hand. It is important to
break free from the assumptions that the leaders in ones particular vector
represent the vectored-group's interests. Why can one so clearly see this with
Obamabots but not see it when it applies to ones own vector?

Until you remove your own constraints you will continue to use illogic to
rationalize a vector-leaders actions.

And if your getting your direction and "insight" from the likes of AJ, then
it is understandable why you are unable to see. Deception is key, and those
that want to manipulate are masters at its execution. You will need much
further study to see it.

Hahah...

Please outline what the vector differential is between Lew Rockwell & myself.

Please outline what you consider my constraints, because as far as I'm concerned, I have none.

The person who has final say over my, direction or "insight" is me.

What is it I am unable to see?

I love your little prose, that seemed like it said something - but really, it said nothing at all..

*Applause*

 

[itsthepathocrats]

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[jmlfod87]

is it possible for me to close my own thread? people are starting to sound asinine.

 

[PatriotOne]

itsthepathocrats,

I am as aware of the false actors as anyone else. Believe me when I say I look at anyone with any clout with a critical eye. However, I am also aware that most people who support the NWO and all the mechanism's behind it have been duped and haven't the foggiest idea what the real motivation is behind it. How could they unless they have spent thousands of hours researching these people in areas that are not normally publically known? Yo have to be willing to look at stuff that sounds so ludicrous most people would be embarrassed to even admit they did.

You seem very aware and I will not say you are absolutely wrong. What I will say is that you can not let paranoia and jadedness cloud your judgement and alienate those who may really be having the curtain of deception lifted. You need to give her a chance to learn and grow with others. She can be a real ally if people like you do not make her hate the people in the movement before she even discovers the real beauty of it in the first place. Give her a chance. You know she won't be able to fool us for long. People with bad intentions ALWAYS gives themselves away. But we need to give her, and others like her, a chance before we label her a liar. She's not going to change us in the interim. I'll be listening for deceptions, and I would be one of the first to call her out. I understand the paranoia but you can't let it destroy the potential for a legimate transformation. How about a little benefit of the doubt until she proves herself otherwise?

 

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Great interview, that was encouraging!

 

[krazy kaju]

It is often supposed that liberals are easier to convert than conservatives. I would agree with that sentiment.

Conservatives usually have a preconceived notion of ethics, whereas "bleeding heart" liberals just want what is the best for everyone, which makes them easier to convert.

 

[Crowish]

is it possible for me to close my own thread? People are starting to sound asinine.

lol :d