Official CNN GOP Debate Thread 12-15-15

Where did he say that? Everybody lies when they run for office, even Rand. You have to go by their voting record and assess what type of person someone is and what their likely principles are. Like I said earlier in the thread, Rand is the only one I trust to be a true conservative at heart, but I do have a different assessment of Trump than you do.
It was in his book not just some flippant remark.
In a Trump presidency], North Korea would suddenly discover that its worthless promises of civilized behavior would cut no ice. I would let Pyongyang know in no uncertain terms that it can either get out of the nuclear arms race or expect a rebuke similar to the one Ronald Reagan delivered to Ghadhafi in 1986. I don’t think anybody is going to accuse me of tiptoeing through the issues or tap-dancing around them either. Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

Sorry but yeaw I do have a different opinion of him than you. And it is exactly his character to do this kind of shit. When he had the protester thrown out of his rally he said "he needed to be roughed up a bit"
He wants to expand torture,
He wants to expand the police state.
He supported the bailouts.
he supported Hillary
He wants to increase NSA spying
he wants to hang snowden.
He tried to use eminent domain to get rid of someone home so he could build a GD parking lot.
he has gone bankrupt three times

Yes I am assessing his character.
 
Bill has brought up his conversation with Krauthammer with every subsequent guest (talking about it with Bret Baier right now), trying to walk back his earlier statements (i.e. Trump's intentionally lying to get elected, and that's good). His attempt to twist what he plainly said is pathetic. His guests are having none of it; not letting Bill off the hook at all. Methinks Bill realizes he fucked up and let the cat out the bag. He went too full retard, even for the average Fox employee.
 
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Hugh Hewitt said he thinks it was the night of the governors. Says Cruz had very good night.

Said he was worried people would get screwed on time when they added in Rand.
 
It's just another pro-Trump focus group. It was tweeted during the debate that when asked about the winner of any candidates interaction with Trump, Trump was the winner.
Nothing to see.
 
It was in his book not just some flippant remark.


Sorry but yeaw I do have a different opinion of him than you. And it is exactly his character to do this kind of shit. When he had the protester thrown out of his rally he said "he needed to be roughed up a bit"
He wants to expand torture,
He wants to expand the police state.
He supported the bailouts.
he supported Hillary
He wants to increase NSA spying
he wants to hang snowden.
He tried to use eminent domain to get rid of someone home so he could build a GD parking lot.
he has gone bankrupt three times

Yes I am assessing his character.

Trump has said some stupid things, but he's not crazy.
As for your other points, if Rand doesn't win you can forget about the fifth amendment. He's literally our only chance to protect the right to due process. :( At least Trump stands by the First and second amendments.

Rand is absolutely my first choice, but if he is not going to win we have to look at who is next best. If we don't control the border now, and start deporting illegals, we will never have another chance to have a conservative elected in a national election.
 
Trump has said some stupid things, but he's not crazy.
As for your other points, if Rand doesn't win you can forget about the fifth amendment. He's literally our only chance to protect the right to due process. :( At least Trump stands by the First and second amendments.

Rand is absolutely my first choice, but if he is not going to win we have to look at who is next best. If we don't control the border now, and start deporting illegals, we will never have another chance to have a conservative elected in a national election.

You are saying you would vote for someone other than Rand, even when Rand is on the ballot?
 
No bias here, Rand sounded like the only informed adult in the room. However, somebody has been successfully coaching both Rubio and Cruz. Carson. Kasich, and Bush = epic fail.
Trump plausibly well coached as well.
 
Frank Luntz says that his focus group determined there were two "winners." The first one is Ted Cruz.
 
Frank Luntz Group: "A lot of our group had strong opinions on the debate winner, ...especially Billy Joe Jr. and the gang from the Free Bird Trailer Park in AL who are all now all in for Mr. Trump!
 
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