Official CNN GOP Debate Thread 12-15-15

Krauthammer, of all people, just declared Rand the winner, more or less.

...he said there were lots of losers, no clear winner, but Rand really distinguished himself.

EDIT: Wow, they're still talking about this: re the internet and the killing of terrorists' family members.

Krauthammer is really going after Trump hard and defending Rand's position.

...is this real life?

EDIT2: Wow, this is really getting interesting. Krauthammer and BillO are STILL going back and forth on this. BillO defending Trump by saying he really doesn't mean it, he's just lying to get votes (yes, BillO is literally using those words). Krauthammer, appalled, is arguing that this is insane, how can that be a reason to support a candidate, etc. Krauthammer's a neocon, of course, but rational in some sense; BillO, being a vile nihilistic demogogue himself, see a kindred spirit in Trump. This is very very bad for Trump, very good for Rand. A huge number of people were watching that.
I'm not convinced Krauthammer defending Rand is actually good for the campaign...
 
Rand should go up a few points after tonight. I'm sure the MSM will do everything they can to keep it to a limited rise.
 
Looks like Rand is doing press rounds tonight, previously he would pick 1 or 2 radio shows, stick with them and do extended commentary.
 
Its so obvious they're pumping up Cruz to bring him down, let's just hope he can last until mid Jan (not likely)
 
Closing quotes, per CBS News:

Paul: "The greatest threat to our national security is our debt...it's both parties' fault. You have those on the right who clamor and say on we must spend anything on the military, and those on the left who say the same for domestic welfare."

Kasich: "No Republican has ever been elected president of the United States without winning Ohio. Let me give you a little tip on how you win Ohio...our message has to be big, and bold, and positive and connect."

Christie: "Terrorism, radical jihadist terrorism is not theoretical to me. It's real... I want the chance to do it again to protect you, your children and your families."

Fiorina: "To take our country back, to keep our nation safe, we have to begin by beating Hillary Clinton. We need to unify our party. We need to be better than our government, which 75 percent of the American people now think is corrupt and incompetent."

Bush: "Hillary Clinton has aligned herself with Barack Obama on Iran, ISIS and the economy...my detailed plans will fortify our national and economic security and my record as governor will give you a sense that I don't make false promises, I deliver real results."

Rubio: "What's at stake in this election is not simply what party's going to be in charge, but our identity as a country and as a nation...millions of Americans feel like they're being left behind, insecure in their future and unsafe in the face of terrorism. This election is about electing a president who will restore our economic vibrancy."

Cruz: "Judgment. Strength. Clarity and trust. Barack Obama has said he doesn't' believe in American leadership or America winning. He is wrong. America can win again and we will win again...our strategy is simple. We win, they lose. We've done it before and we can do it again."

Carson: "I've been fortunate enough to travel to 58 different countries and I thank god every day that I was born in this country...I want to make sure that we preserve that exceptionalism for the next generation. My mother told me if I worked hard and I believed in American principles and I believed in God, anything is possible. And I believe that's true.

Trump: "Our country doesn't win anymore. We don't win on trade, we don't win on the military, we cant' defeat ISIS, we're not taking care of our great people, the veterans...we have to change our whole way...if I am elected president we will win again. We will win a lot. And we're going to have a great, great country, greater than ever before."
 
Bush is barely literate and yet made Trump look like a fool tonight.

lol I disagree that Bush got the better of Trump, especially in their first exchange, but the content of the altercation is irrelevant. Bush has already been thoroughly exposed as a liberal. Even if Bush won their testy exchange, just the fact that Bush is so angry with Trump can only help Trump. Bush is a moron for not realizing this.
 
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