Official 11.11.11 Planning Thread - 17,000 Pledges - Decentralize Facebook Promotion

[Thurifer]

Why should I pledge on the grassroots site if it's not going to be used to future moneybombs? I don't understand the point of pledging again and again for moneybombs, when I'm pretty sure I'm going to donate anyways.

 

[seawolf]

With two days left it appears the 11.11.11 Veterans Day Money Bomb is not going to meet the RP Campaign's Goal of raising $4.2 million by the end of November. Frankly, I did not think that it or any Money Bomb would, based on previous results and the Terrible State of the US Economy.

With Herman Cain's Campaign raising over $2 million dollars in the last eight days, the RP Grassroots will need to come together quickly on Nov. 12th and plan on making up for any shortfall in order to meet the $4.2 million goal. (looming in just 18 days)

Let's press the Campaign to keep a Donation Ticker up until the $4.2 million is raised. It will be near impossible to place Prime TV and Radio Campaign Spots in Iowa and New Hampshire if we wait until the Dec 16th Tea Party Day Money Bomb to make up for any shortfall if the November 30th Goal is not met.

Anyway, I hope the 11.11.11 Veterans Day Money Bomb is successful beyond our wildest expectations. As a Retired Army Officer I will be making a large donation to honor all of our Veterans and of course our Champion of Liberty. Let the countdown begin.........

 

[Birdlady]

There is little to no enthusiasm for this money bomb. It is worrying me a lot. Is it specifically for this money bomb or is it simply the beginning of the end for money bombs? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

 

[wstrucke]

I saw someone max out around 11 am today. Things are progressing.

 

[TexMac]

There is little to no enthusiasm for this money bomb. It is worrying me a lot. Is it specifically for this money bomb or is it simply the beginning of the end for money bombs? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

There's enthusiasm, it just isn't on this forum. The BTO guys have stomped off because their feelings are hurt. They'd rather hurt the campaign than swallow their pride and work on the moneybomb. You know the 11K people on the BTO email list that we all worked so hard on? They're stonewalling sending out emails for this moneybomb, even though that's OUR email list. How petty is that? Read their TeaParty thread, it's all there.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...11.com-Dec-16th-Money-Bomb-Ron-Paul-Tea-Party

 

[John F Kennedy III]

$4.2 million is the goal. I don't care how much blood, sweat and tears it takes to get there. We're going to do this shit. This is a war we're in ladies and gentlemen and goddammit we're going to win!

 

[dusman]

There's enthusiasm, it just isn't on this forum. The BTO guys have stomped off because their feelings are hurt. They'd rather hurt the campaign than swallow their pride and work on the moneybomb. You know the 11K people on the BTO email list that we all worked so hard on? They're stonewalling sending out emails for this moneybomb, even though that's OUR email list. How petty is that? Read their TeaParty thread, it's all there.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...11.com-Dec-16th-Money-Bomb-Ron-Paul-Tea-Party

Perhaps, I have mistaken your maturity, as you have started to become a bit hostile.

Feelings hurt? Pride? No, I am a professional and very objective and have no need to take things personally. Just as I told you privately, I am not going to step on anyone's toes. Whomever is taking leadership on this project needs to take responsibility to communicate what they need and it will get done. No, I don't follow this thread often because I am not involved with this moneybomb, which wasn't much my choice. At this point I've been more concerned about salvaging my own business and preparing for Dec. 16th. You probably never considered the impact BTO had on my business, but it's beside the point.

I don't appreciate you coming onto these forums and attempting to give others the impression that we are stonewalling the list. That is disrespectful and not at all the case. I've only received a PM from Sentinel about e-mailing the list and I immediately took action to get it worked on.

 

[Sentinelrv]

There's enthusiasm, it just isn't on this forum. The BTO guys have stomped off because their feelings are hurt. They'd rather hurt the campaign than swallow their pride and work on the moneybomb. You know the 11K people on the BTO email list that we all worked so hard on? They're stonewalling sending out emails for this moneybomb, even though that's OUR email list. How petty is that? Read their TeaParty thread, it's all there.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...11.com-Dec-16th-Money-Bomb-Ron-Paul-Tea-Party

I can understand that you're upset about it as am I, but that's no reason to spread misinformation. Nobody is stonewalling the list. It has everything to due with the lack of communication from the leader of this project, Gage. He wanted to head this project up, yet he's just not taking the responsibility necessary to meet our goals. Read my response to your post about it in the Tea Party thread. I go into more detail there. Dusman isn't the person you want to be blaming here. He's been nothing but helpful to us.

 

[TexMac]

I'm just going to repeat this from the TeaParty thread: If Gage isn't responding, go around him. You guys are letting this inane "waiting for Gage" thing HURT THE MONEYBOMB which in turn hurts RON PAUL. I get that you want to show Gage up about how awful he's being but GET OVER IT.
It does not take a week to send out an email! There should have been TEN sent out by now. Get it going! Write the damn email and get it sent out. We are 2 days out,no time for hurt feelings getting in the way of what must be done.

Just because Trevor did the website and "lead" the moneybomb doesn't mean everyone who puts up the website is a leader. Clearly Gage has no idea what to do, so let's get it done! Give me the list and I WILL get it done! Or give it to someone who does!

dusman, you are NOT acting like a leader, either. You have walked away from this moneybomb, which is fine except you took stuff we need! Leave us the list and go abandon the moneybomb on your own! You have no right to hold that list and not send out the emails you, as a "leader" know NEED to be sent.

Now quit acting like spoiled brats and let's get this DONE.

You can talk about how mean I am later, after you GET THE EMAILS SENT OUT.

 

[Sentinelrv]

Here was my reply to that in the Tea Party thread...

I've done what I can without having to wait for Gage, but there are many things where we do need his help, since he's the one controlling the website. Dusman didn't simply abandon this money bomb. He tried to influence its direction through Gage in the beginning, but as he found out, he was being ignored and so he moved his focus back to his business and the next money bomb, things that he could control. There's not much he can do to influence the direction of 11/11/11 if he can't control the website and add features that would help promotion efforts.

I agree though that we should have dropped the "Waiting for Gage" thing a long time ago. That's why I contacted Dusman to tell him to send one out. It probably shouldn't have taken this long to figure this out so I agree with you there. It should have been sent out on the 1st, but there's nothing we can do about that now. If nothing is sent out by today then I'd say that we have a problem.

One other thing though, and it's something Dusman brought up in his post. We were able to attain those 11,000 emails starting from scratch. We didn't have an email list to help kickstart BTO. We did it on our own. Since this one hasn't even passed 1,000 pledges yet with the money bomb only a couple days away, I think it's safe to assume there were some serious structural problems with this thing to begin with, most of it probably stemming from the theme.

What I'm saying is that 11/11/11 was started from scratch also without an email list and wasn't even able to pass 1,000 pledges, where BTO reached 11,000 easily. So even if Dusman had used the BTO email list several times leading up to 11/11/11, I don't think it would have made any significant difference. The problems are more structural and less to do with our ability to inform supporters about it. The theme was decided without our input, so there's nothing any of us could have done to salvage this mess anyway. Actually, scratch that. There is one thing we could have done. We could have just built a different website with a better theme and pushed that instead. That could have made all the difference. So on leading instead of waiting, you're definitely right that we failed there. We could have just done our own thing, bulit our own website and our own theme and avoided this mess to begin with.

 

[TexMac]

Yes, so we have two days to do what we can to get this off the ground. I'm posting all day on FB and RP articles, who's in? Let's blitz the internet! This post is very effective:

Ron Paul has almost 600,000 "Likes" on his facebook page. What if each person who liked Ron gave his campaign $20? All on one day, Veteran's Day! It would be a historic donation day and Ron would be in the MSM for days! Please participate in the MoneyBomb and let's make history! For Ron Paul and freedom!https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117277025049386

Ron Paul Moneybomb!
Friday, November 11 at 12:00am


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Substitute your own event or use mine, whatever. Just get out there! We also have some useful graphics and suggestions here: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulMoneyBombers. I have that site set up so the same people will be able to work on the next moneybomb on facebook. The most active people will be invited to the MoneyBombers closed group after the 11-11-11 bomb is done. Anyone who wants in, let me know.

ETA: Don't assume everyone knows what a moneybomb IS. We have a LOT of new Ron Paul supporters that have only the vaguest notion of what we mean by "moneybomb."

 

[Sentinelrv]

We're contacting YouTube members here...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-11.11.11-(We-re-Using-the-BTO-YouTube-List)

Keep the thread bumped until every person has been messaged.

 

[TexMac]

Ron posted about the moneybomb on his facebook page, yay!!

Ron Paul[h=6]Have you pledged your support for the 11.11.11 Veteran's Day money bomb yet?[/h]

VETERANS DAY MONEY BOMB! *** November 11th ***
www.ronpaul2012.comHelp Restore America Now with a common-sense, Constitutional government. Support Ron Paul for President. Principled Leadership with a record to prove it.


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[seawolf]

The Veteran's Day Money Bomb Update #1 E-Mail, while a little late, ( I received it at 5:22 PM PST, Nov 9th) was excellent and very comprehensive.

All of us need to work very hard tomorrow and all weekend to make this event a huge success.....