Off Topic: Have you heard about the burning saltwater?

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I'm surprised they didn't mention "perpetual motion." The machine that generates waves uses more energy than this reaction gives off.

2nd law of thermodynamics people.

And why would gold or silver be magically attracted to cancer cells specifically? Not saying that isn't possible, but it is unexplained and sketchy at best.
 
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I saw this about 6 months ago. Now if the radio waves could be used to separate the hydrogen from the H2O, be cost effective, and used in hydrogen fuel cells, as opposed to the normal electrolysis method, which is not cost effective, Wow.
 
Here's something to think about; lets say we applied this theory to an automobile engine. Lets say that we retro-fitted the frequency generators to focus their beam either onto the electronic fuel injection rails, or, perhaps, just right on top of each cylinder in order to insure proper radiation for the change to take place. Lets say this created an explosion in the cylinder (just like gasoline would) with the (common) use of a standard spark plug for the ignition. Lets say this fire/explosion was as powerful as gasoline and the engine turns as an effect (which, judging by the rapid burn, it looks more active than what gasoline in the same tube would act) then the engine would turn the alternator, just like in a gasoline vehicle, which produced the power to run the generator. EDIT/Insert: The saltwater would be loaded into the fuel tank just as usual. There would also have to be a substantial battery charge in order to build the initial current needed to cold start the engine.

This is highly possible because you can acquire alternators with EXTREMELY high output (to run all these high wattage subwoofer systems, for instance) that would certainly have enough power to run a radio frequency generator (basically the same thing as a radio broadcast tower - the strongest of which run at dozens of thousands of watts; which is capable with high output alternators, and surely, the generator wouldn't require any more current than a standard broadcast tower). The variable in all this is just how many watts does the generating machine itself consume - and if it's too high, can it be re-designed, smaller, more focused (instead of the bulky, huge, surely low efficiency output plates we see in the video) unit that would operate within the output limit of the largest alternator setup any said engine would be able to rotate (also in respect to any power differences burning the saltwater would yield).

I think all this could be easily worked out, and I would love to get involved in something like this. I hold an Electronics Engineering certification and graduated autocad 3d design and engineering school - plus, mechanics are my hobby (ha, ha). I need to send a letter now.
 
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Couple questions. If you stop the radiation does the fire automatically stop? Sure hope so lest we see the entire world explode when the ocean is lit.
 
Couple questions. If you stop the radiation does the fire automatically stop? Sure hope so lest we see the entire world explode when the ocean is lit.

I would imagine... once the environment causing the reactions ceases to exist, the reaction would... much like how a CD will stop sparking in the microwave once you turn it off.
 
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I'm surprised they didn't mention "perpetual motion." The machine that generates waves uses more energy than this reaction gives off.

2nd law of thermodynamics people.

Well if you think about it one dimensionally... of course the burn being utilized the way in the video will be somewhat comparatively non-efficient; but then again, just how much work would gasoline itself yield if burned in this manner?

You must HARNESS the substance and/or reaction in order to get the most "work" out of it.

For instance utilizing it in the manner I previously explained a few posts back, like gasoline, focused in a chamber, "working" for us rotating an engine which, in-turn, rotates a power generating device (alternator or whatever may be better for this particular application), though belts and pulleys, yielding exponential rotating ratios to spin the alternator pulley at a higher rate of speed than the engine - or anywhere in between, the numbers would certainly have to be worked out for maximum efficiency.
 
This is not an energy source. He is converting water to water. The energy is coming from the radio waves, which are breaking the water into hydrogen and oxygen. That burns and it turns into water again.

You 'spend' more energy than you 'earn' from this. It won't solve anything. :(
 
The only way I see this being viable is if you are able to use this to use the heat emitted to cause a cascading explosion using a mist of water. Why? It's well known that adding water to super heated fires actually turns the water instantly into fuel for the fire. The goal would have to be to utilize this as basically a spark plug to instantly super heat the water, and at 1500 degrees C, they might be able to achieve it. I still though see the massive amount of energy required to power the RF generator as a problem.
 
This is not an energy source. He is converting water to water. The energy is coming from the radio waves, which are breaking the water into hydrogen and oxygen. That burns and it turns into water again.

You 'spend' more energy than you 'earn' from this. It won't solve anything. :(

I'd be really interested in seeing the numbers involved in the operation of the radiation generator and see how they stack up to the output of an engine alternator... hardcore
 
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I'm surprised they didn't mention "perpetual motion." The machine that generates waves uses more energy than this reaction gives off.

2nd law of thermodynamices people.

And why would gold or silver be magically attracted to cancer cells specifically? Not saying that isn't covetous, but it is unexplained and sketchy at best.

**EDIT**

Many People already put good responses, so I find what I stated as superfluous.
 
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And why would gold or silver be magically attracted to cancer cells specifically? Not saying that isn't possible, but it is unexplained and sketchy at best.

Cancer cells have a negatively charged membrane, so a positively charge gold or silver nanoparticle should be attracted to the cancer cell and be pulled right into it.

Cancer research has been going on for so many years, and so many billions of dollars have been spent on it, yet the rate of people getting cancer continues to rise, and the allopathic treatments basically haven't changed. I applaud people who think outside the box like this and follow through with their experimenting, whether it works or not.
 
Well, I will let others speak - I have heard enough perpetual motion claims in my life to be sick of the matter.

IMO, you won't be able to pour salt water into a tank and magically get an energy gain and drive off. It is a net loss of energy with using radio waves.

What I could see interesting in this application is if the procedure to seperate hydrogen and water (which I assume this is doing) is more efficient than electrolysis. Electrolysis is terribly inefficient (I don't know if steam electrolysis is much better).

If this is an improvement over that - it would be good in applications to hook up to solar cells and use get hydrogen to store the energy until you need it - perhaps for a hot water heater or something. As it is right now, batteries are too expensive and environmentally unfriendly to make 100% solar home feasible for the average family.
 
hmm... if I ever get to the beach, I'm going to take a lighter and try to light the ocean on fire

Great, then the government will have to steal more of my money to pay for a public relations campaign. "Smokey the Tuna says only you can prevent ocean fires."
 
I just spent a while reading about Stirling Engines before coming back to this thread.
The solar powered Stirling Engines have a much greater potential to save the world than the flaming salt water, but it is still a cool thing.

First, there is already a cure for cancer developed by a Canadian. The problem, it's cheap and it works.
Here is one article on the method:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10971
and a picture which gives the basics:
dn10971-1_550.jpg


Now regarding the 2nd Law. I'm no expert but seeing how the hydrogen in the salt water is also a fuel, generating more power output than what is needed to power the RF generator would not violate the 2nd Law. Same as if you were using RF to burn gasoline or any other combustible.

eb
 
Great, then the government will have to steal more of my money to pay for a public relations campaign. "Smokey the Tuna says only you can prevent ocean fires."

Not to mention the TSA will start banning water and walkmans on airplanes :D

eb

edit: for those under 25, the walkman was the predecessor to the Ipod :D
 
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