Obama's 23(!) Firearm Executive Orders

[pcosmar]

primary care MDs wont be asking about guns during an H&P, I can almsot guarentee that

How,,?
They do now. They have been for some time,, with very little resistance.
There have been some stories posted here to that effect.

So how can you "Almost Guarantee" what has been happening won't happen with the New and improved Socialized and state mandated health care?

 

[Acala]

Are people going to have a pscy eval before purchasing a gun now?

No. At least not without an act of Congress. And I think that is very unlikley.

 

[Acala]

How,,?
They do now. They have been for some time,, with very little resistance.
There have been some stories posted here to that effect.

So how can you "Almost Guarantee" what has been happening won't happen with the New and improved Socialized and state mandated health care?

I've never had a doctor ask me about guns in my home. And in a state like Arizona it would be like asking if you have a car. Something like 3/4ths of homes in Arizona have a gun. But close to half in the entire country have a gun. This kind of thing only makes sense to the percentage of the population that knows what they know about guns only from television. They don't have a clue how mainstream gun ownership is in most of the country.

 

[pcosmar]

I've never had a doctor ask me about guns in my home.

I haven't either, but I seldom talk to Doctors. Others have had it happen.. Florida passed a law (couple years ago) forbidding it because it was an issue.
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=44993

I have run across the subject in 2nd amendment research. It is not new,,

 

[Ranger29860]

I haven't either, but I seldom talk to Doctors. Others have had it happen.. Florida passed a law (couple years ago) forbidding it because it was an issue.
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=44993

I have run across the subject in 2nd amendment research. It is not new,,

I knew I had heard that issue before thank you for the link! People can talk smack about Florida all they want but we definitely got some pretty nice stances on guns in this state.

 

[dinosaur]

Are people going to have a pscy eval before purchasing a gun now?

Not a traditional psych eval, but I'd advise people to be careful when talking to their regular doctors. He might just write something down on your chart that triggers a red flag. I'm not sure which state records they are talking about wanting to share with the database, but be careful what you say to teachers, careful what you say to police, careful what you say to your social worker, etc.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Not a traditional psych eval, but I'd advise people to be careful when talking to their regular doctors. He might just write something down on your chart that triggers a red flag. I'm not sure which state records they are talking about wanting to share with the database, but be careful what you say to teachers, careful what you say to police, careful what you say to your social worker, etc.

And for an interesting dose of reality, tell your doctor you'd like to take a look at your chart/records. I bet the answer is NO.

 

[jtap]

Incremental loss of freedom. We are like frogs in water, being boiled.

 

[pcosmar]

Not a traditional psych eval, but I'd advise people to be careful when talking to their regular doctors. He might just write something down on your chart that triggers a red flag. I'm not sure which state records they are talking about wanting to share with the database, but be careful what you say to teachers, careful what you say to police, careful what you say to your social worker, etc.

Damn Shame.
Don't talk about it,, Hide it under your coat,, lock it in a safe.

It is a God Given Right. A Human Right.
NOT A CRIMINAL ACT
not something that needs to be hidden from children and polite society.

 

[phill4paul]

Damn Shame.
Don't talk about it,, Hide it under your coat,, lock it in a safe.

It is a God Given Right. A Human Right.
NOT A CRIMINAL ACT
not something that needs to be hidden from children and polite society.

Unfortunately, it has been that way for too long. To many it sounds like an fairy tale.

"Harken back children, to an ancient time, when all men walked as princes and kings. Armed cap-a-pie so that no other would invade his domain."

 

[FunkBuddha]

Not a traditional psych eval, but I'd advise people to be careful when talking to their regular doctors. He might just write something down on your chart that triggers a red flag. I'm not sure which state records they are talking about wanting to share with the database, but be careful what you say to teachers, careful what you say to police, careful what you say to your social worker, etc.

I won't tell a doctor a damn thing. When i was a much younger, foolish man, I went to the doctor for insomnia. He asked me fill out a questionaire and so i did. He came back and told me I was bi-polar. I thought that seemed odd since I've never had a problem with depression. He told me that I leaned harder towards the mania side of things. Which, if you knew me, would kind of make sense except for the fact that I don't have swings towards depression. He put me on some mood stabilizers (Zyprexa and Neurontin) and asked me to come back in a few months.

i never went back. I had gained 40 pounds in under two months! I would wake up in the morning and find empty Zebra Cake wrappers on the kitchen counter from midnight snacks that I couldn't remember happening. I had an insatiable craving for sugar. I quit taking the meds just before Thanksgiving that year and by Christmas i was close to my normal weight of around 160lbs. I have stretch marks on my thighs to this day.

Years later, my wife and i decided to have kids. While she was pregnant with our first child, we decided to get life insurance. I was denied because they found this "doctor's notes that said I was bi-polar. I went to my new Dr. and told her what had happened and she recommended me to a psychiatrist who, after several sessions, said I wasn't bi-polar and that I did have a tendency to be overly obsessive about things which could lead to what people would think of as maniacal but that certainly wasn't harmful. After that diagnosis I was finally able to get life insurance.

Of course, it's probably documented by two different doctors that I'm a maniac now. So I've got that going for me.

 

[FunkBuddha]

Not a traditional psych eval, but I'd advise people to be careful when talking to their regular doctors. He might just write something down on your chart that triggers a red flag. I'm not sure which state records they are talking about wanting to share with the database, but be careful what you say to teachers, careful what you say to police, careful what you say to your social worker, etc.

I won't tell a doctor a damn thing. When i was a much younger, foolish man, I went to the doctor for insomnia. He asked me fill out a questionaire and so i did. He came back and told me I was bi-polar. I thought that seemed odd since I've never had a problem with depression. He told me that I leaned harder towards the mania side of things. Which, if you knew me, would kind of make sense except for the fact that I don't have swings towards depression. He put me on some mood stabilizers (Zyprexa and Neurontin) and asked me to come back in a few months.

i never went back. I had gained 40 pounds in under two months! I would wake up in the morning and find empty Zebra Cake wrappers on the kitchen counter from midnight snacks that I couldn't remember happening. I had an insatiable craving for sugar. I quit taking the meds just before Thanksgiving that year and by Christmas i was close to my normal weight of around 160lbs. I have stretch marks on my thighs to this day.

Years later, my wife and i decided to have kids. While she was pregnant with our first child, we decided to get life insurance. I was denied because they found this "doctor's notes that said I was bi-polar. I went to my new Dr. and told her what had happened and she recommended me to a psychiatrist who, after several sessions, said I wasn't bi-polar and that I did have a tendency to be overly obsessive about things which could lead to what people would think of as maniacal but that certainly wasn't harmful. After that diagnosis I was finally able to get life insurance.

Of course, it's probably documented by two different doctors that I'm a maniac now. So I've got that going for me.

 

[tmg19103]

The FBI’s database currently contains the names of more than 150,000 veterans. They served our country honorably. They did nothing wrong. But, because they sought counseling for a traumatic experience while risking their lives for America, they have had their constitutional rights summarily revoked and are barred from gun ownership - with no due process whatsoever due to an unconstitutional EO.

This secret FBI list will soon include tens of millions of Americans -- including soldiers, police, and fire fighters -- with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder, anxiety disorder, depression, etc.

That's what is allowed in and this what will happen based on this new unconstitutional EO.