Obama releases birth certificate!

[jmdrake]

Nope. There are some people who will never be convinced. Watch.

I don't think you actually read what I wrote and you just put up a canned response. Whether there are "some people" who will never be convinced is irrelevant to the fact that there are problems with the BC that was released. There are many people in the middle (like myself) who could go either way. Your flippancy isn't helping your argument.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I don't think you actually read what I wrote and you just put up a canned response. Whether there are "some people" who will never be convinced is irrelevant to the fact that there are problems with the BC that was released. There are many people in the middle (like myself) who could go either way. Your flippancy isn't helping your argument.

When will there not be problems with the Birth Certificate? I don't friggin buy it. There are "layers"? Yeah right.

These people are not your friend.

 

[jmdrake]

When will there not be problems with the Birth Certificate? I don't friggin buy it. There are "layers"? Yeah right.

These people are not your friend.

You aren't my friend either. It's not about friendship. It's about the truth. Even Obama defenders admit there are layers. They just came up with a cockamamie "it was because of OCR" argument. I don't buy that. I'd love to see something definitive. If you're going to swallow whatever comes out that's on you.

 

[Don Lapre]

By the way, myself and other always said if it does get released it should be independently verified. Why would it not be? There a a dozen isses with it. Is it so wrong to question?

Of course it should and will be seriously questioned.

There are multiple abnormalities that pop out with very little effort put into finding them.

Beyond that, when a person goes to great lengths to keep a document hidden - and then goes ahead and releases the document, does it make any sense at all to just smile and say, "Oh, see, he did have it after all. It must be legit. Next!"

LMAO!


This is just preseason, anyway.
The 'game' begins when Corsi's book comes out.

 

[idirtify]

When will there not be problems with the Birth Certificate? I don't friggin buy it. There are "layers"? Yeah right.

These people are not your friend.

When will there not be disguised allegiance to power? When will there not be less-disguised attacks on people who question power? I don’t know when. Maybe never. But that is no basis for me to stop advocating individual liberty or opposing its enemies.

 

[Bruno]

Of course it should and will be seriously questioned.

There are multiple abnormalities that pop out with very little effort put into finding them.

Beyond that, when a person goes to great lengths to keep a document hidden - and then goes ahead and releases the document, does it make any sense at all to just smile and say, "Oh, see, he did have it after all. It must be legit. Next!"

LMAO!


This is just preseason, anyway.
The 'game' begins when Corsi's book comes out.

Any why is the media not asking, and not interviewing, Obama's close friend the Governor of Hawaii who "searched" for it and couldn't find it and said it appeared one did not exist? And then suddenly it is reproduced from a book listing it in supposedly chronological order? WTF? No red flags? Right.

 

[HarryBrowneLives]

I don’t think forgetting to dot an “i” invalidates anything, but I do think listing the birthplace as a hospital name that was not even imagined for another 15 years invalidates a birth certificate. Don’t you? Or are you not really here to discuss such questions (beyond calling them “technicalities”)?

No, I'm really not here to discuss it. I would rather discuss things besides the "to infinity and beyond/Shroud of Turin" Birther thingy like actual issues that might have some bearing on the future of my children and country if it can still be saved. It's not so much that they're "technicalities" as that the issue is politically irrelevent. I would rather spend my time and research working and advocating matters that actually have some small chance in hell of success in that I've been fighting for Libertarian ideas and ideals in the wilderness for the last 25+ years when most of the people involved in the Birther movement couldn't spell Libertarian.

In other words, it's still a semi-free country and you guys are welcomed to discuss and investigate long after Obama has left the White House. I just feel like there's an opportunity cost in that many could be spending time helping the Paul's or something else that may have an effect on our freedom.

 

[Don Lapre]

More thoughts to be posted later.

 

[idirtify]

No, I'm really not here to discuss it. I would rather discuss things besides the "to infinity and beyond/Shroud of Turin" Birther thingy like actual issues that might have some bearing on the future of my children and country if it can still be saved. It's not so much that they're "technicalities" as that the issue is politically irrelevent. I would rather spend my time and research working and advocating matters that actually have some small chance in hell of success in that I've been fighting for Libertarian ideas and ideals in the wilderness for the last 25+ years when most of the people involved in the Birther movement couldn't spell Libertarian.

In other words, it's still a semi-free country and you guys are welcomed to discuss and investigate long after Obama has left the White House. I just feel like there's an opportunity cost in that many could be spending time helping the Paul's or something else that may have an effect on our freedom.

Do you typically spend 166 words to come into threads and tell posters that their thread is irrelevant and you would rather discuss other things? Do you realize that you could have been far more efficient by using zero words and not coming here at all?

 

[idirtify]

Any why is the media not asking, and not interviewing, Obama's close friend the Governor of Hawaii who "searched" for it and couldn't find it and said it appeared one did not exist? And then suddenly it is reproduced from a book listing it in supposedly chronological order? WTF? No red flags? Right.

Good point. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the media suck up to government more than with Obama and his eligibility. It will be interesting to see how Judge Napolitano handles all the inconsistencies with this latest BC (which, instead of answering questions, only poses more), or whether he ever will.

 

[Don Lapre]

Good piece by Joseph Farah.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292553

Beyond the fact that there should have been a Supreme Court ruling on Barry's natural born status (or lack thereof) before the '08 election, I have three primary issues with the current document released by Obama.

1. Farah's point. He said:

First, let's look at the document itself. I would like you to compare and contrast it with what I call the "control" long-form birth certificate from Hawaii circa August 1961 – the one belonging to the Nordyke twins, born just one day later than Obama's reputed Aug. 4 birthdate.

What do you see?

Do you see two documents that provide the same information? No. Do you see two identical documents? No.

Why not?

It's a simple question. Why would two long-form birth certificates from Hawaii, filled out at the same hospital within 24 hours of each other be so different?


2. The Obama document has a certificate number which does not match what it ought to be in relation to the Nordyke certificates.


3. Is African a race? lol


I have many other issues too, and a lot of them involving forensics.


Point is, this matter certainly belongs in a court, with testimony from people directly involved with this document - and with proper cross examination of their testimony.

At the very least, it belongs in a congressional hearing.

 

[Pillowpants]

He still comes from a lineage of CIA people though.

Prove it.

 

[Pillowpants]

WND is complicit in this deception. The women who's name escapes me from the Hawaii Department of Health has already stated that they use the self-description as the race of the parents. That means when his father was asked he called himself "African"

 

[Don Lapre]

Hawaiian officials have been all over the map with their statements regarding Barry's documentation.

Testimony under oath - and then cross examination - is what is needed.


As it stands right now, this released document doesn't come close to cutting it, imo.

 

[cswake]

I wasn't one of the "birthers", but Denninger brings up some facts that make sense to me:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185202

See, the issue isn't layers. Yes, the layers are suspicious, but they're not the smoking gun. The smoking gun is that there are no chromatic artifacts in the Obama document, but the document is allegedly a color scan of an actual piece of paper, and we know it had to be a color scan because the background is allegedly color safety paper.

I'm really curious to hear document experts weigh-in on this issue going forward...

 

[Wicklowwolf]

 

[Don Lapre]

Explain away, Barry.

har har





Wheel out the gallows, boys!




Btw, when this thing begins to unravel (and it's coming very soon), it's gonna be complete U.S. chaos, imo.

The implications resulting from having this fraud operating at the top of our government for 2+ years will be utterly devastating.

Not since the Civil War will America have seen the level of upheaval that is gonna come from it.


jmo

 

[tpreitzel]

Explain away, Barry.

har har





Wheel out the gallows, boys!




Btw, when this thing begins to unravel (and it's coming very soon), it's gonna be complete U.S. chaos, imo.

The implications resulting from having this fraud operating at the top of our government for 2+ years will be utterly devastating.

Not since the Civil War will America have seen the level of upheaval that is gonna come from it.


jmo

Uh, oh, as I tiptoe through the ooze of coincidence ...

 

[Ball]

The smoking gun is if you use Adobe Bridge the layers have different dates.

OCR my ass!

This is becoming a bit of a national IQ test.

 

[Don Lapre]

More.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...WI4YzAtODBkZWU2YjBhZDU1&hl=en&authkey=CKv6_hg



This is not going to end well for Barry.