Obama birth certificate issue gaining momentum - Youtube video has over 560,000 views

[fedup100]

How much BS can you fit into one post?
(Fedup100 - a couple other posts showed up by the time I posted this reply)
How long can you leave the country for and lose your citizenship? Is there any such limit? How long was she outside the country for? His father is merely listed as "African" not muslim or or arab. See for yourself. You can click on it and see it nice and big if you are having troubles reading it. http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

I believe she had been out of the country for 10 years, regardless of whether my recollection is correct, Phillip Berg does have the answer to all your questions on his site. It is correct that she had been gone from this country too long to an american citizen.

There is no claim that his father was a US citizen- his mother was.

Don Nickeloff a private investigator has volumes of info on him and his family which were ALL CIA. He does have birth documents that say the father is Arabic and is listed as Muslim.

Please provide a link to the "proof" that it was a forgery over his sister's certificate. This one shows no sign of having anything printed underneath any of the writing. There are several more photos of different details of it you can find in the box on the left side of this link. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Go to Berg's site, it is all there.

The question about a foreigner able to get a birth certificate in Hawaii has already been discussed.

His grandmother was misquoted as saying he was born in Kenya. During his visit to Kenya as President, his uncle said that was the first time Obama had been to Kenya.

Yeah, right.


Number19- thank you for looking that up.

 

[fedup100]

But you're the accuser. Provide proof his mom didn't show his BC for school registration.

The burden of proof is on him, PERIOD! I am ashamed to see someone with your stances on this forum.

Do your loins quiver for the zero, they must because you have an effin hard on defending this imposter. The likes of you will go down in history as the culprits that slit the throat of the greatest nation on earth. Too bad you would be proud of the fete.

You better hope to hell you never find yourself in my fox hole when the shtf.

 

[fedup100]

So, you won't watch it? Because of principle? What you are saying is it doesn't matter what proof is set before you because your eyes are shut and your fingers are jammed in your ears.

Obama shares the same privacy right you do. I can't go to your state's Dept. of Records and demand to see your BC like you're suggesting.

World Net Daily has already confirmed it's validity. I will keep reminding you of that.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Maybe you should email WND and ask for an explanation.

The way you defend this national security risk makes me wonder where you have your fingers jammed.

 

[mediahasyou]

The birther argument is weak. You are wasting your time attacking his qualifications when you could be attacking the massive thievery he is bringing upon us.

 

[fedup100]

I'm talking about the laws Obama has signed...the February 2009 stimulus wasn't signed by Bush...Bush had nothing to do with health care or cap & trade (assuming it will get passed).

She knows what you are talking about, she is in love with anything her savior does, that is the lot of a "bamer". There is no way a thread on this forum can exist with this topic that she wont be there spewing the "bamer' line. She is the stink that accompanies shit.

 

[fedup100]

Typical denialist setup.... "tell me how I am wrong". Holy crap! The whole article is about how World Net Daily validated the documents with their own experts. THE WHOLE ARTICLE... Not even a year ago. So what I'm saying is your precious websit flip flopped when the eligibility issue was presented by Taitz (Republican) rather thean Berg (Democrat).

So let me get this strait. Joseph Farah's site a year age PROVED that zero was a citizen? Wonder why they have had that billboard project going for the last 6 months nationwide seeking the BC?

Are you on crack or longing for a crack?

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I enjoyed the video... Roland martin acted like an ass.

Here's the deal, If you want a Top Secret Security Clearance within entities of the US government you must provide the original Birth Certificate. Even a raised seal gold stamped birth certificate sold by the hospital or Certificate of Life Birth DO NOT qualify for proof.

BTW, Obama's clearance work is stamped 'NOFORN' that is all I am stating and I cannot provide physical proof on the NOFORN stamped paperwork.

Somebody with connections needs to investigate "other" routes if they deem necessary to resolve.

So, let me see if I got this right. All of you supporting Obama for what is technically a Birth Announcement (without a verifiable physicians signature or name of a hospital) are happy that Obama got elected instead of Ron Paul.

Why are you such people even on this forum other than to serve as trolls on issues like this?

It is a Constitutional issue folks. It is clearly stated that the President must be a natural born citizen of the United States. Obama has a responsibility to prove his citizenship with a verifiable document - not a birth announcement.

For those of you who want the real story instead of someone else's trolling here:

YouTube - Dobbs Tells Roland Martin To Pipe Down During Obama Birth Debate

Wildlander

 

[idirtify]

Hello newbie! Thanks for sloppily exposing what you do in forums. Are you the genius on Orly Taitz legal team?

I’m a long way from sure what you are talking about (other than trying to insult my person), but I’m pretty sure it has little to do with addressing any of my previous points. Why are you trying to distract attention away from the issue by criticizing my person? Here, let me try to refocus your direction: Why are you placing an unnecessary amount of trust in those whose proof of qualifications should be held to a HIGHER standard? Since when do Liberty Foresters vigorously defend the authority figure who says “trust me”?

 

[idirtify]

The birther argument is weak. You are wasting your time attacking his qualifications when you could be attacking the massive thievery he is bringing upon us.

How is it weak to anyone other than Partisan (one of the great religions) Believers?

It’s no waste of time. One of the few ways to beat the government in court is to attack the qualifications of government witnesses. Many of them are complete hacks with great gaps in their qualifications. Point it out and everything the witness had to say goes away. Contrary to what you say, disqualifying the gang leader is a much more efficient way to fight the gang.

 

[muh_roads]

I'll state that Kenyans sure believe he was born in Kenya. Why not just fly there and hunt around for it?

 

[Sandra]

So let me get this strait. Joseph Farah's site a year age PROVED that zero was a citizen? Wonder why they have had that billboard project going for the last 6 months nationwide seeking the BC?

Are you on crack or longing for a crack?

Why are you accusing me of using crack? Your WND messiah was the one that published it.

To answer your question, Farah was trying to frame it as a Democratic effort to question ineligibility (Berg) so he attacked it. When Taitz (Republican) made the same moves as Berg he did a complete flip.

Farah is a donation whore. He has done or said anything that will get him money. Some of those who donated want to know where the money went. Because there are only a few of them on private property.

Have you noticed that Farah hasn't mentioned Taitz for a while? But he was so gung ho about her , why?

 

[kahless]

Why not do some investigative reporting to address the issues the birthers have once and for all. No we are CNN I think we will call it dead.

Jon Klein on Birthers: "It Seems This Story is Dead"
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...s_it_seems_this_story_is_dead_122546.asp#more

----- Original Message -----
From: Klein, Jon (CNN)
Sent: Thu Jul 23 19:00:44 2009
Subject: Important re birth certificate

I asked the political researchers to dig into the question "why couldn't Obama produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate?"

This is what they forwarded. It seems to definitively answer the question. Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead - because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef.

Thx

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*In 2001 - the state of Hawaii Health Department went paperless.*Paper documents were discarded*The official record of Obama's birth is now an official ELECTRONIC record Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the Health Department told the Honolulu Star Bulletin, "At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.


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Transcript from Lou Dobbs Tonight - 07.23.09

DOBBS: ....And a number of Americans are asking, why not? The left-wing media has attacked me because I simply asked the question. Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago.

That explanation, however, has not satisfied some critics. Joining me now, Roland Martin. He's CNN contributor, syndicated columnist. And joining us as well, Congressman Ted Poe.

 

[Sandra]

An investigation was made into Farah's sudden flip flop. Gat ready to cry WND fans.

http://www.newsnidea.com/7921/world...-to-simple-questions-with-video-terry-krepel/

 

[Number19]

Why not do some investigative reporting to address the issues the birthers have once and for all. No we are CNN I think we will call it dead.

Jon Klein on Birthers: "It Seems This Story is Dead"
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...s_it_seems_this_story_is_dead_122546.asp#more

This is new to me and I thank you for posting.

I'm not sure how to accept this.

I have my own, original, certificate of birth - given me by my mother. When I renewed my passport a few years back, I wasn't about to turn over this 60 year old document, so I obtained a legal copy from the state - a certification of vital record. It is a long form.

I am also into family genealogy.

From a personal perspective, from a perspective of historical record, I would not at all be pleased with a "short form" of this vital information.

I also find it a little curious that Hawaii would go totally electronic and totally destroy the paper form of historical documents. I had an aunt who was doing something similar and they had a primary concern on the vulnerability, and the constantly changing technology, of the electronic format. They ultimately decided to backup the original documents in microfilm format. So they ended up with the original documents which they did not discard, microfilm and electronic copy.

I am not certain I accept a statement that these, original, vital records were destroyed. I also do not believe that the State of Hawaii would be so irresponsible and negligent as to require only such minimal information on these vital records. It just doesn't compute in my brain.

 

[fedup100]

Why not do some investigative reporting to address the issues the birthers have once and for all. No we are CNN I think we will call it dead.

Jon Klein on Birthers: "It Seems This Story is Dead"
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...s_it_seems_this_story_is_dead_122546.asp#more

Well all I can say to that is too damned bad for anyone that wants to run for President of the USA if they are from the state Hawaii.

Look folks, they know they cannot forge this thing and get by with it so wallla, the electronic story is suppose to lull you back to sleep.

AGAIN, show the original and if you cannot do that for ANY reason, then there is reasonable doubt you are not a citizen, STEP DOWN NOW!

 

[fedup100]

Why are you accusing me of using crack? Your WND messiah was the one that published it.

To answer your question, Farah was trying to frame it as a Democratic effort to question ineligibility (Berg) so he attacked it. When Taitz (Republican) made the same moves as Berg he did a complete flip.

Farah is a donation whore. He has done or said anything that will get him money. Some of those who donated want to know where the money went. Because there are only a few of them on private property.

Have you noticed that Farah hasn't mentioned Taitz for a while? But he was so gung ho about her , why?

Because you are "hair on fire" rabid zero supporter and it looks like a crack whore searching for a fix.

I cannot stand Joseph Farah. Mr. Farah is a zionist and supports the non semetic take over of Israel. I must give him credit though for this fight for it is a worthy fight.

Sandra, why are you on this a liberty forum? You are not for liberty of any kind unless it is the the liberal kind. You have taken over every thread in your quest to cram that lying sack of shit zero down our throats.

You were also at Sheriff Macks throat and you and Rael were successful in hijacking that thread and spreading just enough doubt to sabatoge any efforts to get his book out.

Between you and Farah, I see only one whore and that's you. Tell me Sandra, do they pay you or are you just insane?

 

[Number19]

I am always looking for more information in areas of dispute, such as this over Obama's documentation of birth. Above at post #116, kahless, provided something new for me to consider.

This question is mostly directed toward those who support the MSM/Obama position on the issue that the matter has been satisfactorily addressed.

Has it ever been explained, why, for the period in time - the early 60's - under discussion, some Hawaiian births had a "long form" certificate of live birth filed with the state; and other births, notably Obama's, only had a "short form" certification of live birth filed with the state?

Let's assume everything is legitimate and proper, why this difference in the vital record required by the State of Hawaii?

 

[fedup100]

I am always looking for more information in areas of dispute, such as this over Obama's documentation of birth. Above at post #116, kahless, provided something new for me to consider.

This question is mostly directed toward those who support the MSM/Obama position on the issue that the matter has been satisfactorily addressed.

Has it ever been explained, why, for the period in time - the early 60's - under discussion, some Hawaiian births had a "long form" certificate of live birth filed with the state; and other births, notably Obama's, only had a "short form" certification of live birth filed with the state?

Let's assume everything is legitimate and proper, why this difference in the vital record required by the State of Hawaii?

Oh no, I guess it was racism, because everyone but the savior got a long form, oh boo hoo.

My family as all families keep those documents for obvious reasons. The savior's family knew he was the messiah, you know they have every piece of paper that ever existed that has anything to do with him.

How sad that ALL records of this creature from the heavens have all been scrubbed, deleted (oops ), sealed or hidden.

 

[fedup100]

PRESIDENTIAL BIRTH PLACES



Jimmy Carter, Wise Hospital, Plains, GA (The first president born in a hospital)

George H. W. Bush: 173 Adams Street, Milton Hill, MA

Bill Clinton: Julia Chester Hospital, Hope, AR

George W. Bush: Grace-New Haven Community Hospital, New Haven, CT


Barrack Hussein Obama: STATE SECRET

 

[Sandra]

Because you are "hair on fire" rabid zero supporter and it looks like a crack whore searching for a fix.

I cannot stand Joseph Farah. Mr. Farah is a zionist and supports the non semetic take over of Israel. I must give him credit though for this fight for it is a worthy fight.

Sandra, why are you on this a liberty forum? You are not for liberty of any kind unless it is the the liberal kind. You have taken over every thread in your quest to cram that lying sack of shit zero down our throats.

You were also at Sheriff Macks throat and you and Rael were successful in hijacking that thread and spreading just enough doubt to sabatoge any efforts to get his book out.

Between you and Farah, I see only one whore and that's you. Tell me Sandra, do they pay you or are you just insane?

Well, I don't know where the crack whore comment comes from and I was NEVER at Sherriff Mack's throat. I politely asked a question of Sheriff Mack and he answered it like the gentleman he is. You, however, make unsubstantiated statements and lose it if you're even questioned. ..Just like now.