Obama And Guns

For all you folks in the pro-gun community understand this. Barack Obama is not a fluke. This man has no business being promoted by the DNC to be president.

This country will fade as long as you
continue to believe that we have legitimate elections. We will continue on this down slope as long as you pretend that you are a patriot that does nothing more than staying on the bandwagon.


Obama And Guns

so you obviously think McCain is the lesser of two evils? I can't think of any other reason to post this nonsensical partisan crap.

You might want to go look up his gun rights history as well.
 
Some more facts on Obama:

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 20087. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 2, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote =00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)
5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.
6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)
7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. (http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf)
9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)




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I refuse to fall into this trap that we have to hold our nose and vote for McCain because Obama will take our guns.

That worked for Bush, didn't it?

The Bush that inflated the size of the BATF threefold and brought us the PATRIOT act and Military Commissions Act, along with other grave violations.

So I got mind-fucked once and I won't let it happen again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Check McCain's record and you will see he is against gun ownership but hey I got something else for you. Check the Youtubes from the WSRP convention in Spokane and watch the McCain people fight us on gun right for veterans.

No, Obama won't take our guns, or will want to no more or less than some other member of the CFR picked republicrat duopoly.


He can TRY to take our guns, as McCain would. The difference is that if Obama does it, we will at least have people crying foul where if McCain does it, the same people who would cry fould if Obama did would be telling people like us "what are you, some kind of conspiracy nut? McCain is not anti gun, he's a republican".


At this point, after being taxed, robbed in the nomination process, relegated, marginalized in the political process, and finally, raped by Wall Street with the fat end of a baseball bat (no lube either), either candidate would-be dicatator trying to take guns would be comparable to the British marching on Concord.

And that day I welcome. Bring it. For having done all else, there is yet one more thing to do.

+ Fucking 1776 !!!!!!!!
 
Obama isn't taking your guns away you backwater hicks. Go outside and shoot cans.

Condescending "jerkiness".

I expected better from you Kade, honestly.

And you can't deny that an all democratic fedgov would be a threat to 2nd Amendment rights.
 
He ain't going to your house to steal your guns. He'll just make it harder to buy it.

If he does I will also suck it up and say I was wrong, but he's not going to walk up to you and steal your firearms. If you people think so, then you should be directed to the Sean Hannity forums.
 
He ain't going to your house to steal your guns. He'll just make it harder to buy it.

If he does I will also suck it up and say I was wrong, but he's not going to walk up to you and steal your firearms. If you people think so, then you should be directed to the Sean Hannity forums.

You live in Chicago right?
is it true that you face prosecution if you defend your family with a firearm in your own home?
Only the criminals have the guns there, right?
 
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