OathKeepers Chicken Out

Wow, talk about a smear job. You sound like Hannity.

Extremist, black helicopters, paranoia, violent, and crazy. You got most of the keywords to belittle someone that loves liberty and small government. Don't forget racist next time.

That ^ +1
 
Well not sure what your wink-face implies, but that 2A rally that people were going to carry openly within D.C. Metro just, as Admiral Ackbar would say:

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What better place to snag a ton of pro-gun people than using some byzantine rule about D.C. Metro that no one knows about. All chest-thumping aside, that whole event is just shady to me.

Agreed, and announced as much on Twitter, for all the world AND MY UNCLE SAM'S TATOOD PARAMILITARY TO SEE. Since WHEN does Washington DC have blue uniformed dudes with entire "sleeves" of tattoos? I'm asking. It was my first time in Washington DC and I'm tellin' ya, THEY GOT 'EM NOW. I have seen them with mine own eyes.

There seems to be a studied unawareness that, well, let's see . . . how shall I put this? THE TEA PARTY HAS BEEN BOGARTED.

The New & Improved Tea Party EXPRESS, featuring so much of the Republican Old Guard as to include the John McCain suffix "Express" AND John McCain's former running Arm Candy Sarah Palin -- also full embrace by FOX NEWS, it bears mention -- was due to roll into Washington DC on the 15th. A weekday. The GUN Rally is FOUR STRATEGIC DAYS LATER? A weekday on the OTHER side of a weekend?

Puh-leez.

READY. TO. POUNCE.
 
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Well the event went off without a hitch, and without the violence that their "intelligence" predicted.
In light of some new info I think I know who they were listening to.

He makes the accusation here.

YouTube - Mike Hollingsworth. Traitor to the patriot movement.

btw.
J4P did not make this, other patriots did. J4P has tried to politely talk to this guy. (yes I was in the chat)
This guy is nothing but rude.
and is still talking shit.
 
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Disgusting.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/04/13/oath-keepers-withdraws-from-virginia-open-carry-rally/

And read the comments. I am not the only one displeased.

perhaps the July4Patriot can get something real going when he gets back on his feet.
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I read through all of those comments, one of the answers I got out of it all as far as why they didn't go as a group to the rally was that they didn't want to be legally labeled a militia type group, it's kinda like the black book thing in Las Vegas, once a group is put into the official "black book," military, law enforcement and other official people cannot legally join or continue to be a member of that group anymore, so, they are supposedly trying to continue to grow their "official" members.

The Comment.....

34. How many policemen and servicemen will we reach if we are suddenly a militia group?

You know that the DOD is briefing service members on militia groups, and policemen are receiving briefs on militia groups too. If OK becomes classified as a militia group, all access will be cut off, and a DOD order will go out forbidding membership in OK right next to the KKK. Does anyone here want that? No one can deny that chain of events.

We are able to talk to current serving military and police because we are NOT a militia group. Title 10 USC, section 311 and 312 defines the militia as those personnel not belonging to the active military and the national guard. If you want to be in a militia, which doesn’t even exist right now anyway, you can’t be a part of the active forces.

OK’s mission is completely different from SPI and WRSA. If OK is painted with the same brush, membership will be prohibited and any active serving personnel will be court martialed just like if they belonged to the KKK.

Stop, cool down and consider that strategic and tactical decisions that are necessary. The enemy is wise and skilled at taking us down. Don’t make it any easier.

Alan Jay Stang Jr
Comment by Alan Jay Stang Jr — April 13, 2010 @ 8:46 pm
 
They are NOT a militia. Nothing in their organization classes them as militia.

TOUGH

THe SPLC ans ADL have already decided it. They are classed with all other "right-wing racist hate groups"
Too late. Nothing they can do about it.
deal with or ignore. That is how it is.

Running away from it doesn't help.
 
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I read through all of those comments, one of the answers I got out of it all as far as why they didn't go as a group to the rally was that they didn't want to be legally labeled a militia type group, it's kinda like the black book thing in Las Vegas, once a group is put into the official "black book," military, law enforcement and other official people cannot legally join or continue to be a member of that group anymore, so, they are supposedly trying to continue to grow their "official" members.

BINGO! Except we don't care if active duty joins or not. We just want to have open lines of communication so we can continue our mission of Reach, Teach and Inspire. Pretty simple concept but some just don't get it...


perhaps the July4Patriot can get something real going when he gets back on his feet.
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Are your eyes and ears still open? Care to hear an update concerning j4p? Have you talked with him recently? Stewart has... and just as I said in my PM to you and AF... Charles is all good with OK. Oh, and don't take my word for it, just keep your eyes and ears open... it may be awhile but Charles has said he will write up a statement apologizing to OK and expressing his continued support.
 
Are your eyes and ears still open? .

Always.
Yes, I have heard some. though not about the OK particularly.
Charles is quite humble. He does not even speak harshly of Hollingsworth, and hes attempted to be reconcilitory. Even in the face of unprovoked hostility.

I would not expect him to say anything against any other patriot or even an open enemy.
 
Always.
Yes, I have heard some. though not about the OK particularly.
Charles is quite humble. He does not even speak harshly of Hollingsworth, and hes attempted to be reconcilitory. Even in the face of unprovoked hostility.

I would not expect him to say anything against any other patriot or even an open enemy.
I agree with you that Hollingsworth is a POS, but I hope you are not implying that OK is anything other that a righteous patriotic organization.
 
I agree with you that Hollingsworth is a POS, but I hope you are not implying that OK is anything other that a righteous patriotic organization.

I never said or implied that.
I voiced my disappointment at their decision to withdraw support and backing of the 2nd amendment march.
I also visit other sites in the patriot movement.
Like it or not, they have lost a lot of credibility.
Whether that translates to effectiveness is yet to be seen.
Many are downright angry with the decision.

I watch things on a number of fronts.
 
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