NRO comes out guns blazing "Against Trump", RNC disinvites them from Houston debate for it

[Indy Vidual]

Why is NR against making America great again? :o

 

[William Tell]

Umm... hmmm... do they want to make me like Trump because this is how you make me like Trump.

This is why Trump polls so high, so many people supporting him to spite everyone they hate. It's frightening.

 

[hells_unicorn]

This is why Trump polls so high, so many people supporting him to spite everyone they hate.

So essentially, the majority of the country is supporting Trump for the same reason that they supported the Iraq War. I've heard of people accusing certain political ideologues (particularly on the right) of loving America but hating Americans, but I think that I myself am starting to become sympathetic to this position.

I think instead of "Murica", what we should be saying is "Muricans".

 

[Petar]

I, for one, believe that a ruined GOP will lead directly to a ruined DNC.

The phony wings of the duopoly require each other in order to maintain the illusion of choice.

Trump's total lack of principles and billionaire ego are great in one, very important way:

He is DESTROYING the carefully choreographed PR campaign that keeps both of these brands intact.

Once they are gone - THEN we have a chance.

 

[Dianne]

As much as I can't stand Trump, the National Review is probably the worst neocon rag that there is. Will any of this hurt Trump? Hard to say. The neos aren't being taken as seriously as they once were.

I'm actually boycotting FOX, but did catch 30 minutes of "Outnumbered" today. They were hitting the NR pretty hard. It makes one wonder why neocons like FOX are all of a sudden backing Trump. It's getting scary out there lol.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I, for one, believe that a ruined GOP will lead directly to a ruined DNC.

The phony wings of the duopoly require each other in order to maintain the illusion of choice.

Trump's total lack of principles and billionaire ego are great in one, very important way:

He is DESTROYING the carefully choreographed PR campaign that keeps both of these brands intact.

Once they are gone - THEN we have a chance.

Indeed! And imagine the impact on future election cycles if/when the establishment (as George Will and Bill Kristol have openly floated) runs some neocon as a third party candidate if Trump is the GOP nominee, in defiance of their own long standing canard that any conservative who ran third party against the GOP nominee was "betraying the Republican Party," and guaranteeing the election of the Democrat.

That would plainly mean the elites don't care at all about loyalty, or ruining the GOP's chances, if they don't get the nominee they want. When that double standard becomes exposed to the light of day, it will then become much easier for pro-liberty candidates to choose to run third party or on multiple lines, unencumbered by the GOP loyalty guilt trip the establishment tries to lay on them.

 

[statist slayer]

So essentially, the majority of the country is supporting Trump for the same reason that they supported the Iraq War. I've heard of people accusing certain political ideologues (particularly on the right) of loving America but hating Americans, but I think that I myself am starting to become sympathetic to this position.

I think instead of "Murica", what we should be saying is "Muricans".

Hear, hear! I've been saying since the beginning of this fiasco that Trump is the candidate of spite. Unfortunately, a Trumpkin is like an alcoholic drinking himself to death to spite his family.

 

[Bman]

I was not going to vote for Trump. Not for one second. But these people are making a case for me to reconsider.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I'm voting Rand if I have to write him in...
Did I click the wrong URL?? Is this DonaldTrumpForums now??

 

[hells_unicorn]

I was not going to vote for Trump. Not for one second. But these people are making a case for me to reconsider.

The best way to oppose the Neo-cons and the MSM is to play right into their hands, eh? Forgive me if I see neither the logic nor the sense in what you are saying here.

P.S. - If you believe any of that stuff written in your signature, you wouldn't consider voting for Donald Trump anymore than you would Mao Zedong.

 

[Petar]

I'm voting Rand if I have to write him in...
Did I click the wrong URL?? Is this DonaldTrumpForums now??

Nothing wrong with voting for Rand, writing him in, whatever.

Just know that the vast majority of people are too stupid to want to do so.

With that said, if a guy like Trump is going to come along in the meantime and knock over the entire applecart...

Well, just be happy that someone is creating the conditions that may actually enable a Rand Paul Presidency in the future.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Nothing wrong with voting for Rand, writing him in, whatever.

Just know that the vast majority of people are too stupid to want to do so.

With that said, if a guy like Trump is going to come along in the meantime and knock over the entire applecart...

Well, just be happy that someone is creating the conditions that may actually enable a Rand Paul Presidency in the future.

Almost a century of Bolshevism paved the way for Russia starting to, slowly but surely, accept free market ideas. Personally I'm one of these guys that prefers not using unmitigated destruction and mayhem in order to get what I want at some future date that may or may not come to pass, and I think there are a lot of people from Eastern Europe currently residing in the afterlife who would agree with me.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I, for one, believe that a ruined GOP will lead directly to a ruined DNC.

The phony wings of the duopoly require each other in order to maintain the illusion of choice.

Trump's total lack of principles and billionaire ego are great in one, very important way:

He is DESTROYING the carefully choreographed PR campaign that keeps both of these brands intact.

Once they are gone - THEN we have a chance.

What does that mean?

What specifically do you expect to happen?

 

[Petar]

Almost a century of Bolshevism paved the way for Russia starting to, slowly but surely, accept free market ideas. Personally I'm one of these guys that prefers not using unmitigated destruction and mayhem in order to get what I want at some future date that may or may not come to pass, and I think there are a lot of people from Eastern Europe currently residing in the afterlife who would agree with me.

The Bolsheviks were funded by New York banksters in the interest of fostering global totalitarianism on behalf of a very small elite... Donald Trump is nowhere near such a team player, unlike the average, bought and paid for politician... Donald Trump is a bourgeoisie shit-disturber that is fucking up the entire PR show of the globalists - the modern-day Bolsheviks at the CFR, etc.

 

[hells_unicorn]

The Bolsheviks were funded by New York banksters in the interest of fostering global totalitarianism on behalf of a very small elite... Donald Trump is nowhere near such a team player, like the average, bought and paid for politician... Donald Trump is a bourgeoisie shit-disturber that is fucking up the entire PR show of the globalists... the modern-day Bolsheviks at CFR, etc...

What are you smoking boy? Trump is a product of New York banksters and his ideological persuasion is far closer to an offshoot of Marxism than anything approaching a bourgeoisie, and this is even when discounting his heavy connections with left-wing Jews in said New York area.

Seriously, somebody left the door open to the Twilight Zone at Ron Paul Forums, I don't recognize this place anymore.

P.S. - You do realize that your bourgeoisie shit-disturber thinks "El Hero" should get 2 in the back of his head, right?

 

[Petar]

What are you smoking boy? Trump is a product of New York banksters and his ideological persuasion is far closer to an offshoot of Marxism than anything approaching a bourgeoisie, and this is even when discounting his heavy connections with left-wing Jews in said New York area.

Seriously, somebody left the door open to the Twilight Zone at Ron Paul Forums, I don't recognize this place anymore.

P.S. - You do realize that your bourgeoisie shit-disturber thinks "El Hero" should get 2 in the back of his head, right?

Trump is about Trump. Trump is not coordinating intimately with the master plan of the weirdo NAZI crime families that control everything. For them, Trump is just an unfortunate side-effect of some semblance of freedom that still happens to exist in the USA. He's a reality TV clown/billionaire gone off the reservation, and he is ruining the whole carefully coordinated PR campaign that keeps the duopoly intact.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Trump is about Trump. Trump is not coordinating intimately with the master plan of the weirdo NAZI crime families that control everything. For them, Trump is just an unfortunate side-effect of some semblance of freedom that still happens to exist in the USA. He's a reality TV clown/billionaire gone off the reservation, and he is ruining the whole carefully coordinated PR campaign that keeps the duopoly intact.

Is your signature an attempt at irony or an honest title to your upcoming autobiography?

 

[Petar]

Is your signature an attempt at irony or an honest title to your upcoming autobiography?

I consider it a modus operandi of sorts.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I consider it a modus operandi of sorts.

Oh I get that, my question was were you falling for said modus operandi yourself or are you a willing part of it. I'd bank on the former given the picture of Snowden on your profile, but I suppose it could be either.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

The current table has to be kicked over, as it's clear it's a crooked table. If the Founders sought to resolve their dispute with King George in a British court, there would have been no revolution. The current primary race racket and media "coverage" is fixed top to bottom to install approved insider puppets, with the voting giving the anointed frontrunners a fig leaf of legitimacy. It's that racket that the outsider trend is wrecking, so we can start over. So an unpredictable future is better than a rigged present.

Kicking over the table by straping a bomb to ourselves is hardly a good idea. Donald Trump is the most dangerous candidate running, far worse than Jeb or Hillary. If you look past his angry-yet-vague "winning" rhetoric, he as the same policies as all the other neocons: Bomb the mid-east, take the oil for profit, spy more on americans, raise taxes, and socialize health care. He is not only a fascist in the mold of Bush/Clinton, but more erratic and vindictive.

Then there is the issue of his outsider cred. If he is the anti-establishment populist choice, then all the problems he creates and all the evil things he does will reflect on and mold the future of the growing anti-establishment movement for generations much as Bush Jr. did to the conservative movement. Trump will in one strike both make us look like bafoons to any potential onlookers, and make more war, more spying, and more taxes seem hip and not at all establishment.