Now we're at war with...... Somalia!

[COpatriot]

Yes we can!

Yes we can!

Yes we can!

So who comes next? Iran or Syria?

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Wow, lets see how many wars we can get into before the next election

Its not like a board game mr president, you can't go around pretending like this is some game of war, risk, domination or whatever the hell you think we are playing.

 

[Wesker1982]

waddya mean "WE" ???

 

[flightlesskiwi]

wesley clark and "the list". that's all fine and dandy. WTF was the guy doing WHILE he was an officer? upholding the constitution? methinks not. funny how he came to say all he did when it benefited him politically, eh?

i'll say it again: this is ALL about self interest. down to the last jot and tittle. from the secdef to the lowly lieutenant. self interest. they will follow the orders that the commander in chief gives, no matter the order. everybody needs a job, right?

edit: think about this, too. career military breeds military families. now these guys have the support of their families as a "concern". it's not easy finding a job, and nobody wants to be thrown in jail for insubordination. follow your orders, major!!

what a tangled web...

 

[osan]

At some point, the White House will invest in a gigantic wheel of fortune with the names of every nation on Earth inscribed, and the Presidents will have the privilege of spinning the wheel every 9 months or so...

Minus a few, no?

I cannot imagine Predator raids over London... not that I wouldn't find those most amusing.

 

[osan]

I thought we'd had operations there for quite some time now?

One, if it is the USA.

 

[Danke]

wesley clark and "the list". that's all fine and dandy. WTF was the guy doing WHILE he was an officer? upholding the constitution? methinks not. funny how he came to say all he did when it benefited him politically, eh?

i'll say it again: this is ALL about self interest. down to the last jot and tittle. from the secdef to the lowly lieutenant. self interest. they will follow the orders that the commander in chief gives, no matter the order. everybody needs a job, right?

edit: think about this, too. career military breeds military families. now these guys have the support of their families as a "concern". it's not easy finding a job, and nobody wants to be thrown in jail for insubordination. follow your orders, major!!

what a tangled web...

The soldier boy for his soliders pay
Obeys the seargent at arms whatever he says

The seargent will for his seargent's pay
Obey the captain 'til his dying day
The captain will for his captain's pay
Obey the general order of battle play
The generals bow to the government
Obey the charge you must not relent

What of the neighbors and the prophets in bars?
What are they saying in the publiz bazaar?
We are tired of the tune
You must not relent

At every stroke of the bell in the tower there goes
Another boy from another side

The bulletins that steady come in say those
Familiar words at the top of the hour

The jamming city increases its hum
And those terrible words continue to come

Through bras music of government hear those
Guns tattoo a roll on the drums

No-one mentions the neighboring war
No one knows what they're fighting for
We are tired of the tune
You must not relent

-The Clash

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

 

[heavenlyboy34]

wesley clark and "the list". that's all fine and dandy. WTF was the guy doing WHILE he was an officer? upholding the constitution? methinks not. funny how he came to say all he did when it benefited him politically, eh?

i'll say it again: this is ALL about self interest. down to the last jot and tittle. from the secdef to the lowly lieutenant. self interest. they will follow the orders that the commander in chief gives, no matter the order. everybody needs a job, right?

edit: think about this, too. career military breeds military families. now these guys have the support of their families as a "concern". it's not easy finding a job, and nobody wants to be thrown in jail for insubordination. follow your orders, major!!

what a tangled web...

Indeed. Too bad Jefferson's advice about standing armies was forgotten so soon and so profoundly.

 

[Theocrat]

Six Wars? Blame the People

1. Afghanistan
2. Iraq
3. Pakistan
4. Yemen
5. Libya
6. Somalia

More blah at link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-with-al-qaeda/2011/06/29/AGJFxZrH_story.html

The sad fact is most Americans probably don't even know how many wars we've started with nations already.

Those same Americans don't:

• Read their Constitutions,
• Hold elected officials accountable for their votes,
• Realize our President is overriding Congress in neglecting to declare war on those nations,
• Realize that we can't afford to fund anymore overseas conflicts,
• Understand how much collateral damage we're causing in those nations,
• Have the insight to understand how our attacks create blowback for would-be terrorists,
• See how these authorized "drone attacks" contradict our President's honor as a laureate of the Nobel Peace Prize,
• Care that hundreds of individuals are being killed and families are being destroyed from these wars (at the American taxpayers' expense), and
• Perceive how our intervention into these nations makes our country, via our foreign policy, look like terrorists.
• Know these conflicts have nothing to do with America's national security, no matter how "humanitarian" they are deemed.

We're steady warring against a tactic, and because the American people have become so weak to stand up against it, "war is the health of the State," as Randolph Bourne once put it.

 

[libertygrl]

Oh crap!!

What the hell! Why aren't we out on the streets protesting these unconstitutional wars??? Where the hell is Code Pink??? Oh, that's right. They weren't really anti-war, they were just anti-Republican. Years from now history is going to look back on us and ask why the American people did nothing while millions of lives have been lost in these senseless wars! The only way people would take to the streets now, is if there was a draft. If we keep stretching our military this thin, the draft may not be that far behind.

 

[jmdrake]

1. Afghanistan
2. Iraq
3. Pakistan
4. Yemen
5. Libya
6. Somalia

More blah at link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-with-al-qaeda/2011/06/29/AGJFxZrH_story.html

Somalia is a classic case to prove blowback[1]. We hadn't heard squat from Somalia since Blackhawk down. Then when the Islamic courts union created some kind of order we paid of their ancient pre-Islamic enemies the Ethiopians to invade. Then you started hearing about young American Somalis going back to fight the Ethiopians. Then low grade morons were conned by COINTELPRO to try to set off bombs here. Now we have to go to war with Somalia to stop a problem we created.

[1]Note. I still don't believe that the GWOT can be explained by blowback alone. But that doesn't mean blowback doesn't exist.

 

[Dr.3D]

waddya mean "WE" ???

LOL, maybe he is flying one of the drones and has a mouse in his pocket.

 

[PreDeadMan]

when you say "we" surely you mean the US federal government right?

 

[Brett85]

Let me just play devil's advocate here. Isn't the idea of killing individual terrorists a better idea than occupying a country with 100,000 troops, nation building, and spending trillions of dollars trying to run their government?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Let me just play devil's advocate here. Isn't the idea of killing individual terrorists a better idea than occupying a country with 100,000 troops, nation building, and spending trillions of dollars trying to run their government?

Hey! You're not supposed to question our wise overlords, citizen!

 

[ClayTrainor]

Is it fair to say Obama is an even bigger war-monger then Bush ?

Yea, maybe. They're both just spokespeople for the true war-mongers who have something to gain from these kinds of actions. MIC Puppets.

 

[CanadaBoy]

At some point, the White House will invest in a gigantic wheel of fortune with the names of every nation on Earth inscribed, and the Presidents will have the privilege of spinning the wheel every 9 months or so...

This would make for a great South Park episode.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Let me just play devil's advocate here. Isn't the idea of killing individual terrorists a better idea than occupying a country with 100,000 troops, nation building, and spending trillions of dollars trying to run their government?

someone's always with the advocacy. the devil's advocate loves the slippery slope.

the "idea of killing individual", eh? i have a problem with that in a lot of ways, but i'll stick with this: were these "individual terrorists" an imminent threat to the security of the US? i'll throw a wider net... were they an imminent threat against national interests in somalia. how about wider... maybe they were presenting an imminent threat to US national interests interests in africa?

so i'll ask: when does it stop? when do the excuses and rationalization of tyranny end? when do we, as individuals, get over the idea that the US military is being used to provide us with a safer nation???

 

[affa]

Is it fair to say Obama is an even bigger war-monger then Bush ?

They are one and the same. Bush lobbed it up, Obama is spiking the ball.

Ron Paul. Period. Only answer.