November 6th General Election 2012 Election Night Returns - OFFICIAL Thread

Shauna: We did see the country pretty much reject God tonight. That is a really really sad thing.

mc13: Rigged = machines

POTUS MITT: No way those street thugs win over wonderful mitt!

This has got to be some kind of disinformation plot. This can't be real. It's CIA propaganda to discourage us.
 
It won't happen overnight - because it won't happen at all.

For one thing, most people (unfortunately) do not want what we are selling: liberty. They want to be taken care of. They wan't to be relieved of responsibility. They do not want to be free.

For another thing, network-news-channel viewerships are steadily declining across the board. They are going the way of newpapers (only not as fast). Even if a Liberty News Channel were to get off the ground, it would have nowhere to go but down.

We already have a Liberty News Channel - or the closest we're ever going to get to one.

It's called the Internet.

We do have the Internet, but even young people still tend to refer to major news site for current events, and there will still be a place for TV news media for decades to come. The medium may change over time, but until we're completely to the point of soma-induced stupor, people still tend to read/watch some news. :p

I think we COULD successfully run a liberty-oriented news organization, whether Internet-based or network-based, or a combination. It would just have to be way less preachy than most of us are, most of the time. ;) As someone (acptulsa maybe?) said a month or two ago, it would have to focus most of the time on the ordinary news and human interest stories that draw in "ordinary" people (mainly S types and F types...MBTI reference). When it comes to political issues and editorializing, we'd have to report fairly, but we'd have talking heads more in the mold of Ben Swann. It would have to be a serious endeavor with a serious business model involving serious aspiring career journalists to take off, but...given enough time and love, I think it could.
 
Has anyone compiled any totals on combined Gary Johnson-Ron Paul write ins to see if we cost Mitt the election?
 
Shauna: Snarky! Libertarians are the reason we are in this trouble right now!!!!! They suck all the good ideas out of the party and make people do stupid things that lose elections!!!!! The Libertarians have done as much damage as the Liberals... and they are willing to steal votes from real Americans... Liberatarians are hypocritical despots!

Snarky: Libertarians are the only consistent party.

Shauna: I changed back to Republican when Mitt won the nomination. But I dont' belong in a party with people like Newt Gingrich and even the santimonious other ones...

Snarky: I've yet to see anyone who actually understands Libertarianism disagree with it... give it a chance. They're mainly classical liberals... which are the opposite of 'modern liberals'.

Shauna: Snarky I dont' disagree with most Libetarian ideas... it's just everyone in the party is completely hypocritical!

Nate G.: Nostalgic - Snarky may be my last ban.

Jayde: anybody been over to the ron paul forum to see what they're saying?

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Denial. It ain't just a river on Mitt Chat.
 
This has got to be some kind of disinformation plot. This can't be real. It's CIA propaganda to discourage us.

George Carlin once said, "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!" No matter how intelligent the human race becomes, the bell curve ensures that the smarter segments will routinely look around wondering, "Are you people SERIOUS?" ;) This would still be the case even if the worst of the worst were at Mises's level, because the rest would then be so much farther along.
 
My feelings on this election
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Has anyone compiled any totals on combined Gary Johnson-Ron Paul write ins to see if we cost Mitt the election?

You won't have Ron's votes until up to a month from now. They only have to do it before 'final certification', you will remember that final certification of the Iowa caucus came after NH. And maybe after SC.
 
Can't imagine why Bachmann's race has only 74% reporting. It's almost friggin' 1 A.M. in Minnesota.
 
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