November 11, Veteran's Day Money Bomb (let's stand united! and get to work!)

[Sganet]

Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul link on ETW's page / events.

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate.

 

[Chainspell]

Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul link on ETW's page / events.

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate.

sent you a PM along with some others.

I'm currently nailing down 4 visual styles for the videos, already got one that I really like. and also I've downloaded some HD war footage from youtube. So I'll hit the ground running when everything is in place. I will need people who can write dialogue or the voice over script for the ads. We will post it on the forum and make adjustments, so it doesn't need to be perfect right away.

if you're reading this and you feel you can write something, please do!

 

[Chainspell]

what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:

The most important types of advertising appeals include emotional and rational appeals. Emotional appeals are often effective for the youth while rational appeals work well for products directed towards the older generation. Here are just some of the various different kinds of advertising appeals seen in the media today:
http://www.articleswave.com/advertising-articles/types-of-advertising-appeals.html

I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKoKjJ5XA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v15yhlM&feature=related

Just watched parts 1, 2 and 3... going outside to cut down trees with my chainsaw while drinking beer and wrestling a bear to make up for all the crying I just did...

we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.

 

[Chainspell]

This is one of my favorite movies "Thirteen Days"

when the generals were clamoring for war, JFK instead chose to communicate to the Russians in the form of a blockade.

watch at about 2:00:


imagine ron paul as president starting a new "form" of handling conflicts or problems. Man he will be an awesome president!

 

[TexMac]

Watch Aravoth's and eLib3rty's videos. They were super-popular last campaign.

 

[linusPAULing]

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[linusPAULing]

what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:



I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKoKjJ5XA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v15yhlM&feature=related



we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.

I think the 80/20 rule applies here. 80% emotional appeal, 20% rational. Once folks have an emotional attachment to something they are more open to a few brief, concise rational appeals.

Also, time is short and emotional appeals are often immediate, particularly with this theme, while rational appeal alone tends to take some time.

 

[linusPAULing]

Regarding domain name... I presume this is well on its way to having been settled. If not, while my favorites for some time have been either BringThemHome.com or BringTheTroopsHome.com, another catchy name is the double entendre EndTheseBloodyWars.com.

 

[speciallyblend]

Ron Paulin, Ron Paul vs Status Quo /2 way Race in the GOP Primary

 

[seawolf]

RP Campaign released Black This Out Money Bomb Statistics!!!!

Great information for planningthe Nov. 11th Money Bomb.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron...ion-2011-10-14

Big push needs to be obtaining more donors due to average donation of $61.92 being just about half of the 2007 Money Bombs.

 

[ItsTime]

Where is the facebook event?

 

[IndianaPolitico]

Where is the facebook event?

Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=163195827101460

 

[IndianaPolitico]

Do we have an "official" thread?

 

[chris41336]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

 

[ItsTime]

Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=163195827101460

Thanks, just posted it on black this out facebook page.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

There was a poorly named one earlier in the year and the campaign just changed the name on their website to Ron Paul Vs Romneycare.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.

 

[anewvoice]

Once this is all settled, I am hoping the owner of BTO is going to image edit 1 more time to ask all BTO attendees to attend the 11/11 monybomb... Plus, campaign has 40k+ e-mail addresses to e-mail

 

[linusPAULing]

Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.

I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!

 

[FreeTraveler]

I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!

Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

 

[linusPAULing]

Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

You make a good point. We don't want to do ANYTHING to offend any troops in active duty. The Ron Paul movement probably appreciates their service more than most imo, and we need to make that absolutely clear!