‘Non- Binary’ Transgender Deacon ?

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‘Non- Binary’ Transgender Deacon ?

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Methodist Church Appoints Its First ‘Non- Binary’ Transgender Deacon

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/methodist-church-appoints-its-first-non-binary-transgender-deacon/

The United Methodist Church has commissioned its first openly transgender, non-binary individual as a provisional deacon.

After a 12 year-long journey, M Barclay was officially appointed on Sunday as a member of the clergy by the Northern Illinois Conference.


While it isn’t the first time the United Methodist Church has ordained transgender clergy — in 2009, a pastor who had transitioned from male to female in his youth confided to the congregation that he was transgender — Rev. Barclay is the first openly “non-binary trans person” to become a United Methodist deacon, according to Reconciling Ministries Network.

The new deacon grew up in a conservative Florida community and initially identified as a straight woman. According to the Washington Post, it was only after studying feminist theology and ***** theory that Barclay realized they didn’t fit the mold and came out as a lesbian woman .

Rev Barclay now considers themselves“non-binary trans”, meaning they do not identify as either male or female and prefers to be address by the gender neutral pronoun “they.”

Barclay, who initially struggled with whether to remain in the ministry due to its views on ***** and gender non conforming people, currently serves as director of communications at Reconciling Ministries Network, a Chicago-based organization that advocates for the inclusion of LGBTQ people in church life.

“For so long, I’ve longed to be a pastoral presence in the world — and certainly you can do that without a collar — but we have ordination for a reason, and part of that is that I can publicly identify as a pastor now,” Barclay said told United Methodist Church News.

The decision was met with enthusiasm by Bishop Sally Dyck, who said she hopes this will set a precedent and push the church towards more inclusion. She said: “I hope the church will find itself at a new place in the near future when it comes to full inclusion. That said, M and the other candidates for commissioning and ordination are all a part of the church’s witness and outreach to people who need the good news of Jesus Christ.”

Barclay’s appointment was not without controversy, however.

Reverend Thomas Lambrecht of the United Methodist group Good News — a group that seeks to maintain traditional church teachings on gender and sexuality — said it was premature for Northern Illinois Annual Conference to give trans people like Barclay leadership roles.

Most members of the group would likely maintain that people “ought to live in accord with their biological gender” he argued.




The United Methodist Church, one of the largest denominations in the United States, has no official position on the ordination of transgender individuals. But since 1984, the Book of Discipline, the church’s governing document, has prohibited the clergy candidacy, ordination and assignment of “self-avowed practicing homosexuals.”

Like all new deacons, Barclay will go through a two-year provisional period. They should be ordained in 2019.
 
I know that these are sensational stories and everything, but they are only sensational because people in church nowadays have placed their focus on social/moral issues. The real sensational story about the Methodist Church and all of these other liberal denominations is that they have rejected the gospel. After you reject the gospel, it doesn't matter what the social or moral inadequacies are.
 
I know that these are sensational stories and everything, but they are only sensational because people in church nowadays have placed their focus on social/moral issues. The real sensational story about the Methodist Church and all of these other liberal denominations is that they have rejected the gospel. After you reject the gospel, it doesn't matter what the social or moral inadequacies are.


From the OP;
Reverend Thomas Lambrecht of the United Methodist group Good News — a group that seeks to maintain traditional church teachings on gender and sexuality
 
From the OP;

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Supporting traditional gender roles or supporting non traditional gender roles really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The rejection of the gospel is what matters.
 
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Supporting traditional gender roles or supporting non traditional gender roles really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The rejection of the gospel is what matters.

Traditional "gender roles" are in accordance with scripture, how can you claim otherwise?
 
Traditional "gender roles" are in accordance with scripture, how can you claim otherwise?

So are a lot of things. If some church who rejected the gospel said that abortion was wrong, they would be right about that. But what does that matter in the grand scheme of things if they have rejected the gospel?

These social/moral issues are important, no doubt, but they pale in comparison to the paramount of all issues: theology.
 
So are a lot of things. If some church who rejected the gospel said that abortion was wrong, they would be right about that. But what does that matter in the grand scheme of things if they have rejected the gospel?

These social/moral issues are important, no doubt, but they pale in comparison to the paramount of all issues: theology.

So you're condemning the Methodist Church in toto for the behavior of a few?
 
No. I don't even take anyone's behavior into account. I condemn the Methodist church because they don't preach the gospel.

Well allrighty then.

You're certainly entitled to that belief.

And I'm certain you see your post as helpful and non confrontational don't you?

I don't need to call for you to be banned Sola your inability to engage in civil dialect gets you every time.

Why would you consider yourself to be worthy to condemn the Methodist Church? More importantly why would you want to?

Have you ever spoke to a Methodist? Engaged in theological discourse? Or are you just proclaiming the entire churches damnation by virtue of your holy-self?

What of The Elect who are Methodist?
 
And I'm certain you see your post as helpful and non confrontational don't you?

Yes, I view all of my posts as helpful in the religion forum of this board. Furthermore, they come from a place of love because I want all my friends to know the truth of the Bible.
 
Yes, I view all of my posts as helpful in the religion forum of this board. Furthermore, they come from a place of love because I want all my friends to know the truth of the Bible.

Since you chose to pick one sentence from an entire paragraph the least you could do is address the entire sentence...

Here, let me help you focus;

And I'm certain you see your post as helpful and non confrontational don't you?

If your words depict love then I pity those subject to your actions...

It's really a shame that I've permitted myself to be baited in a h o m o thread and I'm not even a Methodist...
 
Since you chose to pick one sentence from an entire paragraph the least you could do is address the entire sentence...

Here, let me help you focus;



If your words depict love then I pity those subject to your actions...

It's really a shame that I've permitted myself to be baited in a h o m o thread and I'm not even a Methodist...

There are ways to confront issues or people and still be loving about it. But some of the issue comes from the fact that the Bible itself is confrontational. In the Bible, Jesus is called "the stumbling block" that people trip over. The natural man hates the gospel when he hears it, and he tries to suppress or pervert it in any way he can.
 
There are ways to confront issues or people and still be loving about it. But some of the issue comes from the fact that the Bible itself is confrontational. In the Bible, Jesus is called "the stumbling block" that people trip over. The natural man hates the gospel when he hears it, and he tries to suppress or pervert it in any way he can.

Okay maybe I'm off base here but I'm reading that you think it's your place to condemn Methodists, ie; be confrontational, because you believe that the Bible is confrontational..... Is this correct?

These are your words;

I condemn the Methodist church because they don't preach the gospel.

This is what I called you out on and you keep typing trying to convince me that you believe you were expressing love....

Condemnation equates to love......In your mind.
 
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This film couldn't be published today because it would be considered transphobic

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The Methodist Church is the only true and righteous church. All the others can get the hell out.
 
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