New Thursday Poll (PPP) shows Trump imploding...Rand decision premature?

[nikcers]

Santorum won Iowa.. Cruz won Iowa.. Both pandered to the evangelicals in Iowa with their pretend jesus values and god fearing.

yeah, everyone did pander to evangelicals, the difference being is Trump is a vindictive nihilist. He said that if Iowa doesn't pick him then he will never come back, he hates Iowa, he wants Iowa to burn. Trumps golden rule is if someone screws you, you screw them harder.

 

[PCKY]

He wouldn't have gotten into the next debate, and after a bottom finish in NH and SC, no momentum at all.

Reality is he made the right decision.

In an interview with Carly Fiorina, who has been officially cut from the debate, a panelist asked if she could take Rand's spot since he was out but had made the debate. I never saw anything that qualified Rand for the debate with a 5th place in Iowa and low NH/national polls.
Has anyone seen that Rand would have made the debate?

 

[gee_blee]

In an interview with Carly Fiorina, who has been officially cut from the debate, a panelist asked if she could take Rand's spot since he was out but had made the debate. I never saw anything that qualified Rand for the debate with a 5th place in Iowa and low NH/national polls.
Has anyone seen that Rand would have made the debate?

Yes, he finished 5th in the most recent and only national poll since the last debate/Iowa caucus, and he's also 6th in the average of the five most recent national polls. If ABC/RNC chose those polls (they have the discretion), based on the announced criteria, he'd be in. As an added credential, he finished 5th in Iowa - ahead of three other candidates who will be at the debate.

Interesting that several other candidates are vocal in supporting Carly's inclusion, while they were silent when Rand was excluded last month.

Anyway, I believe Rand would've made this debate and that, therefore, he made a HUGE mistake by dropping out. He had nothing to lose, and everything to gain, by waiting 36 hours for the debate lineup announcement, and by attending that debate if invited.

And it's very likely that after NH Kasich, Bush, Carson, Christie and Fiorina will drop out, meaning Rand could've been one of only four standing at the SC debate.

 

[randbot16]

Yeah, I am really starting to wonder why the sudden drop out. He'd be on the debate stage and has a good chance in NH. WTF. It would be down to him, Cruz, Rubio, Trump and maybe Bush very soon, and he would be the OBVIOUS true-outsider choice. WTF WTF WTF. This better have not been the result of some deal with GOP leadership.

Maybe someone sent him a picture from JFK's autopsy or something.

 

[gee_blee]

Yeah, I am really starting to wonder why the sudden drop out. He'd be on the debate stage and has a good chance in NH. WTF. It would be down to him, Cruz, Rubio, Trump and maybe Bush very soon, and he would be the OBVIOUS true-outsider choice. WTF WTF WTF. This better have not been the result of some deal with GOP leadership.

Maybe someone sent him a picture from JFK's autopsy or something.

Yep, the decision may be for a reason(s) other than lack of funds. But if it's only about funds and 'viability', HUGE mistake.

As long as you can make a debate stage with an audience of 15 million, you take advantage of the opportunity to spread the liberty message, even if you have to reduce your campaign expenses to a flight and a toothbrush.

 

[PCKY]

Yes, he finished 5th in the most recent and only national poll since the last debate/Iowa caucus, and he's also 6th in the average of the five most recent national polls. If ABC/RNC chose those polls (they have the discretion), based on the announced criteria, he'd be in. As an added credential, he finished 5th in Iowa - ahead of three other candidates who will be at the debate.

Interesting that several other candidates are vocal in supporting Carly's inclusion, while they were silent when Rand was excluded last month.

Anyway, I believe Rand would've made this debate and that, therefore, he made a HUGE mistake by dropping out. He had nothing to lose, and everything to gain, by waiting 36 hours for the debate lineup announcement, and by attending that debate if invited.

And it's very likely that after NH Kasich, Bush, Carson, Christie and Fiorina will drop out, meaning Rand could've been one of only four standing at the SC debate.

Bush is not dropping until after SC. W made an ad for that market that is in release now. If he tanks there I think he will skip the SEC. SC is supposed to be Jeb!World.

 

[PCKY]

Yeah, I am really starting to wonder why the sudden drop out. He'd be on the debate stage and has a good chance in NH. WTF. It would be down to him, Cruz, Rubio, Trump and maybe Bush very soon, and he would be the OBVIOUS true-outsider choice. WTF WTF WTF. This better have not been the result of some deal with GOP leadership.

Maybe someone sent him a picture from JFK's autopsy or something.

Maybe this is a colossal screw up from Stafford. He was making the case that Rand should be included based upon IA, even though it clearly made no sense that ABC would even consider it. I did see a NH poll on Tues that had Rand at 2%. I didn't really look at the big picture though.
If the strategy was solely counting on the youth vote, given their underperformance in IA, and Bernie's domination in NH, and the campaign coffers were near empty (remember, he's had to borrow from his Senate campaign funds to support the presidential race and McConnel has been fundraising for him) then I could see his strategy. The youth who are willing to vote seem to be in Bernie's camp.
There was also the break-in at the NH headquarters.
But not being in the debate was one of three reasons why NH seemed not viable and without that momentum SC and the SEC weren't either.

 

[PCKY]

I wonder if Rand got a call from Mitch on Monday night???? It would be like getting a call from Tony Soprano. Mitch is a scary guy.