New Politico poll shows Biden leading Sanders, beating Trump by 8 points

[ATruepatriot]

Trump ran on a pretty anti Obama platform. You remember when he started it all with the birth certificate conspiracy theory?

I really don't think the issues had as much to do with it as reality did. They underestimated the intelligence of the voters, they were wiser that they thought and saw what would happen if Hillary was elected. This country dodged a huge bullet. I think they would have voted for anyone but Hillary because they knew straight up Hillary = Communism. She just plain scared the hell out of everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Perhaps it's not different. But you can't just assume that this is a bad poll just because you've seen other bad polls. Most polls are pretty good. How is this one any different than all those?

The source and that they have purposely manipulated polls before. They already have a known MO and rap sheet already.

And no I'm not going to go chase it down for you. Everyone who has followed polls closely over the last ten years already knows this without a doubt.

 

[tfurrh]

Sort of like that surge of Santorum?

Russia interfered

 

[Superfluous Man]

Everyone who has followed polls closely over the last ten years already knows this without a doubt.

I think this is a misconception. Most who have followed polls closely over the last 10 years, and longer, have found them to be generally accurate.

If you think otherwise, then as I said before, it's probably a result of focusing on the minority of polls that turn out wrong, rather than the majority that prove to be accurate to within the margin of error.

 

[Schifference]

We need to wait for professional analysis from the great Frank Luntz before we will know with any kind of accuracy.

 

[eleganz]

Too early, these polls mean nothing.

 

[Anti Globalist]

So, does anyone else wonder if the Democrat party can nominate a rich white man without imploding?

 

[AngryCanadian]

When it comes down to foreign policy
joe biden agenda for foreign policy.
-Regime change for Syria again dispute the fact that they already lost that chance.
-continue the bombing of Yemeni civilians to further support Saudis' gov.
-continue middle east conflicts.

Joe Biden will offer nothing new. Trump will win on the economy.
Joe the pedo biden will try to win based on the Russiagate nonsense.

 

[shakey1]

Polls...

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I see Joe Biden is feeling his way around the competition. This poll is one of many sniff tests on his journey to hold hands and kiss babies.

 

[euphemia]

Don’t be taken in by polls. They are made up as a way to shape public opinion rather than report it.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Don’t be taken in by polls. They are made up as a way to shape public opinion rather than report it.

Absolutely. And it starts with the poll takers and whether they are honest or not. The numbers mean nothing if they were gathered nefariously.

 

[nikcers]

I really don't think the issues had as much to do with it as reality did. They underestimated the intelligence of the voters, they were wiser that they thought and saw what would happen if Hillary was elected. This country dodged a huge bullet. I think they would have voted for anyone but Hillary because they knew straight up Hillary = Communism. She just plain scared the hell out of everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together.

Joe Biden seems to be running on the Gillete platform. I wonder if people understand he wants to be the political correctness police.

 

[Champ]

Don’t be taken in by polls. They are made up as a way to shape public opinion rather than report it.

This is exactly it. This Politico poll was released as an almost unofficial Biden campaign announcement companion piece to get the hype up and begin the news media 24/7 positive coverage of him to make him seem like he is top tier material. These tricks are becoming laughable at this point, we've had a heck of a lot of practice since 2007.

They will start the gap out bigger to begin the hype, and as elections draw closer the gap will tighten and/or become less exaggerated and more precise, so it will appear the pollsters were at least moderately accurate by the time election day rolls around. Like all data, it can be manipulated in any direction to benefit whichever party is desired.

Counting on the fools to nod their heads in agreement that Biden is what is needed for America right now, because look, Creepy Joe is polling amazingly high, he truly must be beloved by the people.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Joe Biden seems to be running on the Gillete platform. I wonder if people understand he wants to be the political correctness police.

I hope he is the candidate. He is his own worst enemy. O-Bro wouldn't even let him get near a microphone because every time he did he stuck his foot in his mouth and made a fool of himself. lol

Ever watch him try to deliver a lengthy speech? It is painful to watch...