New Dietary Guidelines: Cut Sugar, Eat More Veggies

[Chester Copperpot]

My question is - does anybody actually pay attention to the government's advice on how to eat? Based on the posts above, every single person here with an opinion about diet disagrees with some aspect of the advice.

And people like me, whose main criteria is only that it must taste somewhat not disgusting, don't care enough to even think about it. So why do these guidelines exist? Does anybody, anywhere change their diet because Uncle Sam said so?

And if not, why are we paying for this silliness?

I think theyre done for political reasons.. big surprise there.. but I remember as a kid reading the USDA food pyramid etc and I didnt go home thinking about it much.. I guess it was more like a commercial so that when I was drinking milk or something I could think back "Oh this is healthy for me.. I saw this recommended by the USDA" etc sort of thing. I can remember being 7 or younger and wanting my mom to buy Total cereal instead of corn flakes because it had more vitamins in it.. I saw it on TV so it had to be true. lol. well that was me in 1975 lol


and as far as differing opinions I think it boils down to everybody being different and their bodies are all in different conditions depending on their life circumstances..

When people ask me if they should eat this or that particular thing I tell them that it depends on what youre going for.

Some peoples' bodies dont process animal protein that easy.. or they may even get repulsed by the sight of it... those people think veganism is the way to go etc....Other people do well eating rich creams and meats.... I used to only care about carbs & sugar. some people want salt.. etc etc

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Im not "outraged"... but I certainly wouldnt eat it either.. I would rather eat a regular potato created naturally.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

That's what I have - I have the cheapest one but I love it so much I just bought the sprializer attachment for my Kitchen Aid. I have teenage boys and they love veggetti - my wrists were worn out by the time I cranked out enough for all of us. The main tip is not to let it get mushy - don't cook them too long and only use a little bit of olive oil. I saw a recipe where a woman did zucchini, carrots, and sweet potatoes - sprayed them with OO, seasoned them and baked them in her oven. The reviews on that recipe were very good. I can't find it right now but I'll post it when I do.

We also like shrimp Alfredo vegetti.

If you're trying to expand your veggie horizons, pick up The Thug Cookbook or just check out their website - lots of recipes there for free. We made the braised radishes and roasted tomato soup and meat loving Mr Animal loved them both. http://www.thugkitchen.com/

Ive had spaghetti squash before.. and that wasnt too bad.. i was wondering if youve ever had that. if the vegetti "pasta" has a similar texture like that or something else?

 

[Suzanimal]

My question is - does anybody actually pay attention to the government's advice on how to eat? Based on the posts above, every single person here with an opinion about diet disagrees with some aspect of the advice.

And people like me, whose main criteria is only that it must taste somewhat not disgusting, don't care enough to even think about it. So why do these guidelines exist? Does anybody, anywhere change their diet because Uncle Sam said so?

If you have a kid in public school I suppose it matters.

And if not, why are we paying for this silliness?

Jerbs. What else would the people do for a living?

 

[Suzanimal]

Ive had spaghetti squash before.. and that wasnt too bad.. i was wondering if youve ever had that. if the vegetti "pasta" has a similar texture like that or something else?

Yes. I liked the spaghetti squash but I think zucchini just goes better with tomatoes. The vegetti is less mushy if you cook it right - very little oil and let it drain well.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I get the shits.:o I ate a whole watermelon once and it was a disaster.

Was it diarhea or solid? Sorry if it too personal.. I mean a whole watermelon is alot.. I recall one civil war general who polished off a whole watermelon as a dessert after a big meal but other than you hes the only person I know who ever did lol..

There a good amount of fiber in melon but im guessing you mighta got a big dose of magnesium from the fruit.. if you wanna experiment to see.. next time drink a glass of milk or something else with calcium in it while eating the melon.. if you dont get the shits then youre good. lol

 

[Chester Copperpot]

That's what I have - I have the cheapest one but I love it so much I just bought the sprializer attachment for my Kitchen Aid. I have teenage boys and they love veggetti - my wrists were worn out by the time I cranked out enough for all of us. The main tip is not to let it get mushy - don't cook them too long and only use a little bit of olive oil. I saw a recipe where a woman did zucchini, carrots, and sweet potatoes - sprayed them with OO, seasoned them and baked them in her oven. The reviews on that recipe were very good. I can't find it right now but I'll post it when I do.

We also like shrimp Alfredo vegetti.

If you're trying to expand your veggie horizons, pick up The Thug Cookbook or just check out their website - lots of recipes there for free. We made the braised radishes and roasted tomato soup and meat loving Mr Animal loved them both. http://www.thugkitchen.com/

oh wait.. I have a kitchen aid.. is the spiralizer the same thing?? maybe im better off just getting that instead of the vegetti? I rememer the old snoopy sno-cone maker as a kid in the 70s and that thing would tear the flesh off your hand just to get a dixie-cup size of coarsely ground ice

either way i totally want to get this now and try it

 

[Suzanimal]

oh wait.. I have a kitchen aid.. is the spiralizer the same thing?? maybe im better off just getting that instead of the vegetti? I rememer the old snoopy sno-cone maker as a kid in the 70s and that thing would tear the flesh off your hand just to get a dixie-cup size of coarsely ground ice

either way i totally want to get this now and try it

Well, the Kitchen Aid attachment was $80 and the little handheld was $10 but the Kitchen Aid also peels and does a wider variety of veg. I wouldn't invest in it unless you're sure you'll use it.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Well, the Kitchen Aid attachment was $80 and the little handheld was $10 but the Kitchen Aid also peels and does a wider variety of veg. I wouldn't invest in it unless you're sure you'll use it.

yeah ill get the handheld.. i dont bother peeling my veggies.. so far its mainly been cooking in bone broths.. ill go get a vegetti.. oh and one more thing.. do you cook the noodles any particular way?? boil them just real lightly i imagine?

 

[Suzanimal]

Was it diarhea or solid? Sorry if it too personal.. I mean a whole watermelon is alot.. I recall one civil war general who polished off a whole watermelon as a dessert after a big meal but other than you hes the only person I know who ever did lol..

I don't remember but I was up all night and it was horrible.

There a good amount of fiber in melon but im guessing you mighta got a big dose of magnesium from the fruit.. if you wanna experiment to see.. next time drink a glass of milk or something else with calcium in it while eating the melon.. if you dont get the shits then youre good. lol

I was sitting around the pool all day drinking Franzia and eating watermelon.

 

[Suzanimal]

yeah ill get the handheld.. i dont bother peeling my veggies.. so far its mainly been cooking in bone broths.. ill go get a vegetti.. oh and one more thing.. do you cook the noodles any particular way?? boil them just real lightly i imagine?

I just thow them in a pan with a very small amount of Olive oil and saute them for a few minutes. Don't boil them, they'll be mush.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I just thow them in a pan with a very small amount of Olive oil and saute them for a few minutes. Don't boil them, they'll be mush.

ok thanks.

 

[Suzanimal]

And it makes them taste yummy, that's a fact.

'Frying vegetables in oil healthier than boiling them and may prevent cancer', study finds

Frying vegetables is healthier than boiling them and may even contribute to preventing cancer, researchers in Spain have discovered.

The information came to light in a study, published in the Food Chemistry journal, by researchers at the University of Granada, according to EurekAlert.

They conducted an experiment in which they cooked 120g of potato, pumpkin, tomato and aubergine using a variety of methods – frying, sautéing, boiling in water, and boiling in a mix of water and oil.

The results showed that frying the vegetables increased their amount of phenolic compounds, which help prevent against the likes of cancer, diabetes and vision loss.

“Oil as a mean of heat transfer increases the amount of phenolic compounds in vegetables, opposite to other cooking methods such as boiling, where heat transfer is done through the water,” according to Professor Cristina Samaniego Sánchez, one of the study’s authors.

This is because of a transfer of phenols from oil to the vegetables, enhancing them with oil-exclusive phenolic compounds that do not naturally occur in vegetables.

“Therefore, we can confirm that frying is the method that produces the greatest associated increases in the phenolic fraction,” the professor added

“When the phenolic content of the raw vegetable is high, the total content of phenols is increased even more if Extra Virgin Olive Oil is used in the process, and boiling doesn’t affect the final concentration.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-may-prevent-cancer-study-finds-a6827561.html

 

[Yieu]

i think a vegetable based diet is probably best for me. but there are definitely areas where meat is beneficial and thats to repair damaged parts of our bodies. So if you have a damaged thyroid you eat animal thyroid to repair it, if you have a damaged liver you eat animal liver etc.. basically just eat the animal parts that you need to fix in your own body and you cant get that from plants.

That's not quite how tissue repair works. The body takes the proteins and other nutrients needed to repair tissue by breaking down whatever is eaten, or by producing the proteins and other nutrients that it is able to, and uses those for repair.

Well, meat and seafood are necessary to maintaining healthy brain function and developing muscles.

E.g., http://www.livescience.com/7044-fishy-humans-smart.html and http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html?li_source=LI&li_medium=more-from-livescience

Omega 3/6/9 are in flax, DHA is in algae oil (which is added to some products like milk), and lots of people who eat meat don't eat fish much anyway. As for the second point, you can get plenty of animal protein from milk products, so meat is not necessary to obtain animal protein. Therefore, meat (including seafood) is not necessary for healthy brain function or developing muscles.

 

[Yieu]

And it makes them taste yummy, that's a fact.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-may-prevent-cancer-study-finds-a6827561.html

Know what's pretty amazing? Frying vegetables or paneer cheese in ghee, which is butter that is slowly heated and strained until it's a liquid with the solids removed. It can be used for deep frying. For my wedding, I had doughnuts fried in the stuff. It's super healthy and puts the flavor of plain old butter to shame.

 

[Suzanimal]

Know what's pretty amazing? Frying vegetables or paneer cheese in ghee, which is butter that is slowly heated and strained until it's a liquid with the solids removed. It can be used for deep frying. For my wedding, I had doughnuts fried in the stuff. It's super healthy and puts the flavor of plain old butter to shame.

Never had ghee, at least I don't think I have but it sounds yummy. And doughnut fried in it, sounds amazing. I had a cake from Publix at my wedding.:o

 

[Yieu]

Never had ghee, at least I don't think I have but it sounds yummy. And doughnut fried in it, sounds amazing. I had a cake from Publix at my wedding.:o

It's pretty easy to make if you don't see it at the supermarket or an Indian grocery. The trick is not letting it burn, but if it comes out a little brown instead of golden that's still okay.

http://www.ayurveda.com/online_resource/ghee_recipe.htm

Just thinking about it... I could go for some fresh jalapenos sauteed in it with some cheese melted on. Made that the other day with a bell pepper and a jalapeno.

 

[Suzanimal]

Spiralier recipes...

https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partn....0.0.0.#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=sprialized&gsc.page=1

 

[Yieu]

I've seen black bean noodles at the store recently. They taste great and have a lot more protein than wheat noodles. The wife prefers wheat in anything, so she sometimes makes pasta with half wheat and half black bean noodles.

 

[Schifference]

I would imagine that making the noodles is not really necessary. It seems that the nutrient content would be the same or better if the zucchini squash were sliced or diced to an appealing size & shape and sautéed and sauce applied. I think that I always heard that eating the fruit was better than the juice or the entire whole grain was better. Even still it could probably all be done in one pan everything together with no special appliance. Cut the zucchini, prepare the other vegetables, and cook them by putting the longest to cook in first and keep adding until done.