New And OFFICIAL TV Ad in New Hampshire! - "Believe"

[tremendoustie]

Hey, I know those people!

 

[qwerty]

AWESOME!

 

[realtonygoodwin]

New Ron Paul ad! "Believe"



Someone may have posted this, but I didn't see it anywhere...

I think it looks really good. A bit of a different feel/style than we have previously seen.

 

[Lord Xar]

I like it too

 

[unknown]

He is the one we've been looking for and we've found him.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

I wonder if the same ad team even made this...

 

[kill the banks]

v good ... agree sailing we must hit the seniors with that as well

 

[lucent]

Drudged.

 

[KramerDSP]

Was that Annie Duke near the end ?

 

[trey4sports]

bump. pretty excited about this. What do you guys think about the ad?

 

[Napolitanic Wars]

I really liked it but if I could play amateur strategist, sailingaway seem correct. I don't know why the campaign has been so weak with targeting seniors. Everybody knows seniors command the election process, and if you simply tell them Ron is going to save social security, and NEVER tax SS, you will have their support.

 

[affa]

awesome ad

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I'm getting actually pissed at the campaign for not taking the time to say 'cut a trillion WITHOUT CUTTING SENIOR ENTITLEMENTS' because that is the REASON they are losing with seniors who hear over and over that Ron's cuts are 'more drastic' and he thinks social security is unconstitutional. They think Romney as a 'moderate' is better for them. But Romney's budget, while only cutting the rate of increase going forward in spending STILL cuts medicare and Ron Paul's budget doesn't cut either social security OR medicare yet balances the budget in 3 years. THAT is the commercial he needs.

This actually reminded me of the 'he's catching on' ad, but maybe it is because I'm so pissed that they missed this opportunity again.

Dude, he actually believes in ending Social Security and the welfare state. He can't campaign on keeping it afloat, it would be a complete sellout of his principles. He handles it fine by mentioning transitions and not throwing people out on the street.

He'd also get questioned for flip-flopping on SS if he started campaigning as the welfare champion. And rightfully so.

 

[bluesc]

Dude, he actually believes in ending Social Security and the welfare state. He can't campaign on keeping it afloat, it would be a complete sellout of his principles. He handles it fine by mentioning transitions and not throwing people out on the street.

He'd also get questioned for flip-flopping on SS if he started campaigning as the welfare champion. And rightfully so.

He plans on keeping it solvent while letting the young opt out. He has philosophical views, and practical views. Many people still need to make that distinction.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

He plans on keeping it solvent while letting the young opt out. He has philosophical views, and practical views. Many people still need to make that distinction.

I agree, but playing as the SS champion would be a contradiction with his philosophical views. That's a bad idea. Transition programs are fine, funding SS in perpetuity is not.

 

[bluesc]

I agree, but playing as the SS champion would be a contradiction with his philosophical views. That's a bad idea. Transition programs are fine, funding SS in perpetuity is not.

SS will not go away under a Paul Presidency, period. You never know what the President after him will do, so it is essentially pointless to tell people that he will scrap SS because his philosophy doesn't allow it, when telling them that will hurt him and has no truth to it.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

SS will not go away under a Paul Presidency, period. You never know what the President after him will do, so it is essentially pointless to tell people that he will scrap SS because his philosophy doesn't allow it, when telling them that will hurt him and has no truth to it.

I'm not saying he should state he'll scrap SS as president. I'm just suggesting we should stay away from acting as if he'd fund it in perpetuity and work to keep it going forever.

There's also the chance that a complete reset will occur with Ron at the helm. Who knows when the whole system collapses.

 

[cdc482]

Excellent ad, but we have to win Iowa first!

 

[bluesc]

I'm not saying he should state he'll scrap SS as president. I'm just suggesting we should stay away from acting as if he'd fund it in perpetuity and work to keep it going forever.

There's also the chance that a complete reset will occur with Ron at the helm. Who knows when the whole system collapses.

And I'm suggesting we should stay away from the philosophical arguments and focus on his actual plan. Ron is the first step towards true liberty, a big one, and he will do a lot of educating from the White House, and will help us educate too, but he's a realist, and we should be too.

There's a lot we don't know, but a few things we do know - Ron's plan funds SS. Seniors, who Ron needs to improve with, want SS to remain solvent. While Ron may be a pure libertarian, he isn't going to throw people out on the street, so we should stop giving that impression when pushing our philosophy in the name of Ron Paul. If you're going to educate that way, keep it completely separated from Ron Paul until he is in the White House.

 

[chipvogel]

Good ad...but I don't care for "The One" stuff
It sets up cult of Obama comparisons. Obama's campaign was more about the man than his philosophy.

Its not the man its the message, and there are other non-authoritarians out there.
Granted Paul is the only One Republican with the message running for President.